08-12-2015, 11:20 AM
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Colt Cassidy
Amazing? For me, interesting , perhaps.
The ocean, the cliffs, the jungle,
the food ...amazing. I'd move there if funds allowed.
I'm guessing it all depends on where in Mexico you go. It's a HUGE place.
But I would make sure I had my passport if I wanted to return!
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08-12-2015, 12:07 PM
Location: galaxy far far away
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Personally, Cadillac Lawyer . . . with all of the BS going on nowadays, I would NEVER step foot out of this country without a Valid Passport in hand. NOT WORTH THE RISK scenarios.
Yes - why tempt fate?
It really depends on who is at the border that day, what kind of things happened to you and to others when you were traveling, and the vagaries of fate. A few years ago a college friend and 4 buddies went into Rocky Point on 4th of July. The gendarmes there were pulling every single car with US plates over and grilling them. They threatened one of the guys because he didn't have a passport - only birth certificate copy and TX Drivers' License. Never mind that the US has an agreement with Mexico and a passport isn't technically required -- only proof of citizenship and a photo ID. None of that matters when corrupt officials decide to go fishing. They were going to toss all the guys in jail. Of course none of their activity was "legal." Cops just wanted a little bribe money. After an hour or so of harassment, the guys paid $200 and got the hell outta Mexico.
08-12-2015, 12:19 PM
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Yes - why tempt fate?
It really depends on who is at the border that day, what kind of things happened to you and to others when you were traveling, and the vagaries of fate. A few years ago a college friend and 4 buddies went into Rocky Point on 4th of July. The gendarmes there were pulling every single car with US plates over and grilling them. They threatened one of the guys because he didn't have a passport - only birth certificate copy and TX Drivers' License. Never mind that the US has an agreement with Mexico and a passport isn't technically required -- only proof of citizenship and a photo ID. None of that matters when corrupt officials decide to go fishing. They were going to toss all the guys in jail. Of course none of their activity was "legal." Cops just wanted a little bribe money. After an hour or so of harassment, the guys paid $200 and got the hell outta Mexico.
Yep, like you say, it's the luck of the draw. It's not worth it for me to drive into Mexico these days. Walking into border cities is as far as I'd go these days. Places like La Jolla or Coronado give me my ocean fix when I need it and it's not a far drive from the Phoenix metro. Plus imho, I find places like La Jolla or the Torrey Pines area with the cliffs and all much more picturesque than Rocky Point.
08-12-2015, 12:28 PM
Location: Southern Arizona
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R_Cowgirl
Yes - why tempt fate?
It really depends on who is at the border that day, what kind of things happened to you and to others when you were traveling, and the vagaries of fate. A few years ago a college friend and 4 buddies went into Rocky Point on 4th of July. The gendarmes there were pulling every single car with US plates over and grilling them. They threatened one of the guys because he didn't have a passport - only birth certificate copy and TX Drivers' License. Never mind that the US has an agreement with Mexico and a passport isn't technically required -- only proof of citizenship and a photo ID. None of that matters when corrupt officials decide to go fishing. They were going to toss all the guys in jail. Of course none of their activity was "legal." Cops just wanted a little bribe money. After an hour or so of harassment, the guys paid $200 and got the hell outta Mexico.
Unfortunately, R Cowgirl . . . similar scenarios occur far too often and are rarely reported or even mentioned by either Local or National News Media.
08-12-2015, 12:44 PM
Location: St. George, Utah
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My husband was shaken down by the Federales as well when driving in Mexico. Same scenario as R_Cowgirl describes, same $200, lol. And no, there is no recourse. It's to be expected that if you drive in Mexico you might get pulled over, and if you get pulled over you'll get shook down.
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08-12-2015, 01:26 PM
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My husband was shaken down by the Federales as well when driving in Mexico. Same scenario as R_Cowgirl describes, same $200, lol. And no, there is no recourse. It's to be expected that if you drive in Mexico you might get pulled over, and if you get pulled over you'll get shook down.
Well said Montanama. It's all the odds and I agree, they are probably low, but what's the risk worth to someone?
We have US citizen friends who "own" property in Mexico. They are a couple and drive back and forth to their place in Mexico from the US. One thing our friends told us.....they ALWAYS have the wife drive the car in Mexico. He said the federales are much more respectful/friendly to woman than men and he's never had issues. When he drove in the past, they always give him much more flack at checkpoints when he was the driver and he was amazed how much quicker and smoother his checkpoint experiences went when his wife drove. They've been doing this for decades so I trust their experience is valid.
08-12-2015, 06:33 PM
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All the off topic about Mexico aside, yes, a passport is required by the BP to re-enter the US but not to get into Mexico. They will let you back in without it, but may or may not hassle you a bit for not having one.
08-12-2015, 07:40 PM
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Same holds true for Canada.
08-13-2015, 07:49 PM
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Mexico
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You must present a valid U.S. passport or passport card in order to enter Mexico.
Presumably you will have it when you return.
08-13-2015, 11:01 PM
Location: Sonoran Desert
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yellowbelle
Mexico
Presumably you will have it when you return.
Interesting. I have been many times and have never been asked for a passport going in. In fact, I have never been stopped on the Mexican side at all. Just waived through. I have one, though, as you definitely get asked for it by the border patrol when coming back.
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Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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