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02-13-2008, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by wehotex
It would seem that he would have a hard time getting elected and re-elected based on his pro-immigration policies. Since Ariz is a state that has negatively impacted, i'm curious as to how arizonans would continue to re-elect him.
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Arizonians are NOT electing him. Illegal immigration just about bankrupted the state and it's a good thing they enacted a new law against employers who hire illegals to suppress wages, among other problems. Romney and Ron Paul would have been IDEAL to deal with the issue of immigration. For example, take a look at Mitt Romney's site:
Romney on Illegal Immigration (broken link)
He's right on. Illegal immigration is a huge drain on the economy. For example, Lou Dobbs did a great report on this:
Cost of illegal immigration
McCain cannot afford to simply give everyone amnesty and then not be able to definitely close all points of entry and the ever growing human trafficking rings. McCain is the wrong man for the job as far as illegal immigration is concerned but it's better to have him than Obama or Hillary, in my personal opinion.
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02-14-2008, 04:23 PM
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And; if McCain gets Condi Rice as VP----------that could make things very interesting for either winner of the Democratic primary
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If you put ANY member of GW team with MCCAIN, you will get my butt out of this chiar to vote for Obama, in fact, I will find dead people in nearby grave yeards and try and get them to vote. Please run Condi, you will get so many Dems and indepenents to vote for Obama, it will be a land slide. Id sooner blow my nose and vote for what I find in the tissue than vote for anything or anywone associated with GWB.
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02-14-2008, 04:30 PM
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We are not moving anywhere as a group------
Some individuals may decide to leave for personal reasons though.
Besides: our Employer Sanctions Law is starting to bite down now------the illegals are fleeing in droves.
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I agree. Also, with the slow-down in the economy, illegals will not have an incentive to come across the border.
I hope if McCain gets elected, he'll realize that right now is not the best of times to bring the masses from other countries.
Also, I don't agree with McCain on where he stands on illegal immigration, but if I had a choice between McCain or Osama.. I mean Obama, McCain would still be the lesser of the two evils.
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02-14-2008, 06:19 PM
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I agree. Also, with the slow-down in the economy, illegals will not have an incentive to come across the border.
I hope if McCain gets elected, he'll realize that right now is not the best of times to bring the masses from other countries.
Also, I don't agree with McCain on where he stands on illegal immigration, but if I had a choice between McCain or Osama.. I mean Obama, McCain would still be the lesser of the two evils.
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The osama joke is so lame, and getting pretty old. Do you actually know what Osama means? Google it, and maybe you wont continue to use such rhetoric. What "Evil" do you speak of by the way?
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02-15-2008, 08:20 AM
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The osama joke is so lame, and getting pretty old. Do you actually know what Osama means? Google it, and maybe you wont continue to use such rhetoric.
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This topic is not about Osama or Obama, but where have you been for the last 15 years, since the 1993 World Trade Center bombing? I don't care what "Osama" means to you or Google, to me and and every true American, it means EVIL.
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What "Evil" do you speak of by the way?
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Compare McCain's agenda to Obama's agenda of Socialism, and that should answer your question.
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02-17-2008, 01:31 AM
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Good Lord people...have you forgotten where your ancestors came from and how they came here illegally??? Ask any tribal Native American. What goes around comes around. Get used to seeing more brown faces and stop moaning. You are always free to return to Europe.
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02-17-2008, 08:28 AM
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This topic is not about Osama or Obama, but where have you been for the last 15 years, since the 1993 World Trade Center bombing? I don't care what "Osama" means to you or Google, to me and and every true American, it means EVIL.
Compare McCain's agenda to Obama's agenda of Socialism, and that should answer your question.
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That Osama had NOTHING to do with the first world trade center bombing, those thugs are in jail, didnt you hear? There are thousands of good people with htat name. BTW, how is socialism "EVIL", I mean just because you and I perfer democracy, please give me some facts that back up your claim its "EVIL".
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02-17-2008, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Magnum Mike
This topic is not about Osama or Obama, but where have you been for the last 15 years, since the 1993 World Trade Center bombing? I don't care what "Osama" means to you or Google, to me and and every true American, it means EVIL.
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So now you are judging someone based on the fact that his NAME rhymes with with that of another?
How one earth did you get to be a mod? Does a family member run the site or something?
Secondly don't tell me I have to agree with you in order to be a TRUE American - how UNAMERICAN is that? Clearly you don't understand what America stands for - the right of the INDIVIDUAL to make his own choices - paramount among those is the right to vote for WHOMEVER he/she chooses.
Ken
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02-17-2008, 04:49 PM
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I think Maccains immigrations views are the least of his problems. He does very little for Tucson ( or Arizona) , as President he would be much of same thing we have with Bush ( phony republicans ! ) Then on the other hand we get Hillary or Obama, I think its really sad that Americans have to pick between these three. What a joke.
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02-18-2008, 12:12 PM
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that line "Osama.. I mean Obama is so childish"
but if I had a choice between McCain or Osama.. I mean Obama, McCain would still be the lesser of the two evils. [/b][/color][/quote]
I don't think anyone really knows which is the better of the two evils.
I'd rather take my chances with Barack "Barry" Hussein Obama, born in Hawaii.
And that line "Osama.. I mean Obama is so childish". 
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