Arizona is a terrible place, do not think about living here. (Phoenix: tuition, cockroach)

[bigbuglf]

Originally Posted by AndyDwyer480

I know I’m wishing for a complete fantasy here but I sure do hope that it rains from Friday through Sunday

We are all sharing that fantasy!!

[bigbuglf]

Originally Posted by teddyearp

Last I checked, weather service says most of the moisture is coming to the mountain (White Mountains).

Ok, Teddy, you can't hog it all now!

We still have hope here too...

[meo92953]

It's raining! Here near Sierra Vista - what a wonderful sight.

[rbohm]

Originally Posted by teddyearp

Let me see, how to start. Arizona has so many faults and bad things about it that I can not see why any one would even consider moving here from any where else in the country, let alone the world. First off is the obvious. Arizona is nothing but a dry super hot forbidding desert. The temperature usually runs over 100 degrees and there is no rainfall. In the small parts of Arizona that are cooler, the temperatures will run about 10 degrees below zero and you will have 10 feet of snow.

But to continue; Arizona is a welfare state and leaches off the rest of the country:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/arizo...nt-states.html

Further into the evils of Arizona is the politics:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/arizo...oney-bill.html

http://www.city-data.com/forum/arizo...-abortion.html

http://www.city-data.com/forum/arizo...wn-az-gop.html

http://www.city-data.com/forum/arizo...orate-tax.html

And do not forget the infamous Arizona SB1070, the most racist bill ever passed in the history of the world.

Let's move on. How about the water. Take a look at just this one:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/arizo...cord-lows.html

And then how depressing it is to have ever lived in Arizona:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/arizo...n-back-az.html

Do not forget how depressing and awful the landscape is. After all, Arizona is nothing but desert rocks with no form:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/arizo...-strictly.html

Next, it is the education system. Usually it is rated on how much $$ is spent, as if how many dollars=the quality of the education in one place. But then there's this:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/arizo...e-arizona.html

So, to suffice, anyone who is thinking about moving to Arizona should well be warned off. However, if that is not enough, for heavens sake do not forget about the gun laws in Arizona.

There are hardly any. It is a virtual Wild West. You will see guns every where on every one. The only reason you might not is because Arizona does not require a permit to carry concealed. And not only that, but Arizona has a law to allow folks who have been convicted of certain (non-violent) felonies to be able to have those self same rights as well.

Oh the agony! So, do not come to Arizona to visit or relocate unless you are willing to deal with it.

well all i can say is that if you hate arizona so much, then move your butt out of here. i am sure california would be more than willing to take your money, and we certainly wont miss it. or how about new york or chicago?

[bigbuglf]

Originally Posted by meo92953

It's raining! Here near Sierra Vista - what a wonderful sight.

Yippee!

[AZHighCountry]

Previous posts to this thread appear to be largely be satirical, tongue-in cheek, or even straightforward (taken as written).



My former military family has learned to appreciate the best of every national and global location we've ever been sent to (ordered to). Many long-time 'Zonies as Arizonans are often called, are not totally thrilled with folks moving to Arizona (AZ) from other locales, increasing both density and AZ real estate prices, and often bringing their out-of-area politics to the state. It's important to note that these are nearly universal complaints, by residents in each of any of the 49 other states - not just AZ.



For these reasons, many residents/friends/acquaintances here urge dissuading folks from considering/ moving to Arizona (AZ), and could possibly be an ulterior motive for some of the less-than-positive postings about AZ on various on-line venues, including the city-Data Forum.



Politics - Many folks move to AZ because it is generally politically conservative (excepting the urban areas) - others move here, and then are unhappy with that, and seek to change it. For consideration, Cato Institute ranks AZ in the top 14 states for personal freedoms. As a contrasting comparison California, New York, New Jersey, and Maryland rank lowest of the 50 states. An old saying (circa 390AD) "When in Rome, do as the Romans do" might be worth consideration...


Beauty - Arizona is host to the world-famous Grand Canyon one of the crown jewels of the National Park System. The state's wide-ranging beauty made famous in numerous western movies, rivals the most scenic of areas in America. The Arizona Department of Transportation (ADOT) has chronicled the state's scenic beauty in photos in the acclaimed Arizona Highways magazine first printed in July of 1921.


Weather - Arizona weather is determined by geography, weather patterns, and altitude. The lowest and as a result, warmest part of the state is to the southwest, and along the Colorado River (Yuma to south, Bull Head City to North), and the altitude largely increases in any other direction from there. A unique AZ weather pattern is the Monsoon made up of not-quite-daily thunderstorms from June through September, which keeps regions of the state surprisingly green during the warm summers. The Monsoons are fed by moisture and storm energy from the eastern Pacific/Gulf of California and Gulf of Mexico.



Temperatures - Depending on the time of year/season, the low-lands of AZ are warm to hot, the high country is cool to moderate. Typically the temperature drops ~two degrees F per 1,000 feet altitude (standard lapse rate). The Mountainous areas of AZ are cooler, most notable Flagstaff (6,910 feet), the White Mountains, and the many wildlife-friendly "sky islands" in southeastern AZ. Mountain areas of AZ are typically 25F-35F degrees cooler than lower lying desert areas. Mt Lemmon (9,159 feet) immediately north of Tucson is noticeably cooler than Tucson at its base. So if you visit or live at an area 5,600 feet altitude or higher, you will find comfort from the heat in the low-lands.



2nd Amendment - AZ is arguably one of the most 2nd Amendment friendly states in the 50 states. Gun dealers comply with Federal BATF regulations nevertheless delays are minimal. As with nearly any state, the urban areas lean blue/liberal, and the rural ranching/farming areas lean red/conservative. The trend is for larger urban populations with a larger voting population having greater political influence than the less-populated rural areas, similar dynamics exist in other states.



History/Heritage/Tourism - Southern Arizona's history is dominated by Native Americans, early Spanish/Mexican settlers and the Gadsden Purchase of 1853 when the US purchased lands south of the Gila River from a financially strapped Mexico, so a far southern transcontinental railroad route could be built on US land, and to settle other border issues at the time. The Southern Pacific Railroad was completed in 1881/ 1883.



Largely rural, Cochise County (think Apache Indians) in southeastern AZ is larger than the states of Rhode Island and Connecticut combined, and dominated by ranching and farmland in southeastern AZ. The nearby Newman Ranch dates from a Presidential land grant shortly after the Gadsden Purchase, the grants sought to encourage settlement by US citizens. A little over an hour southeast of Tucson, is historic (1877) Fort Huachuca (its namesake is Apache for "place of thunder") established initially to deal with Apache attacks on settlers, and nearby Ramsey Canyon at roughly 5,700 feet altitude is home to over 170 kinds of birds, 14 types of humming birds alone. The adjacent Coronado National Forest hosts wildlife including everything from Mexican Jaguars, to mountain lions, bear, deer, coati/coatimundi, wild turkeys, and tree/ground squirrels/etc. The nearby San Pedro River Valley is an acclaimed birding and hiking area also. The river originates in Mexico and flows northward ultimately to feed the Gila River which then flows westward to the Colorado River. Wineries are in nearby Sonoita, Elgin, and Wilcox. Beyond Cochise County, there are also wineries in northwest AZ in the Verde Valley near Jerome/Sedona.

[teddyearp]

Originally Posted by rbohm

well all i can say is that if you hate arizona so much, then move your butt out of here. i am sure california would be more than willing to take your money, and we certainly wont miss it. or how about new york or chicago?

Hahahahaahaa! I am sorry sir, but you've been nabbed.

[Adamson865]

It rains all the time here! My plans are ruined today. Arizona is a *terrible* place to live because of all the rain.

[Colt AZ]

Originally Posted by rah62

It rains all the time here! My plans are ruined today. Arizona is a *terrible* place to live because of all the rain.

Oyez, oyez!

[bigbuglf]

Originally Posted by rah62

It rains all the time here! My plans are ruined today. Arizona is a *terrible* place to live because of all the rain.

Yes! Rain, rain, rain, rain, rain. It is just so....