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04-15-2008, 11:32 AM
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In your heart you know he's right.
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Originally Posted by xwideopenskyx
I'm up for the challenge, check out the chart below from your neck of the woods. Midnight temperature in 3 different locations, 90, 89 & 85 and 85% relative humidity. That's close enough for me. The dew points are very impressive too. Granted, it's a rarity, but it does happen.

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Holy Cow! I had no idea it was that bad in Chicago. That helps explain why they are moving here in droves. Thanks, xwideopenskyx for getting the facts out.
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04-15-2008, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa
Holy Cow! I had no idea it was that bad in Chicago. That helps explain why they are moving in here in droves. Thanks, xwideopenskyx for getting the facts out.
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Yeah, I spent 5 years or so in Michigan, a year and half in North Dakota and an equal time out on Long Island in New York State as a kid and the summer heat and humidity can be oppressive.
While I've not been in Phoenix in the summer, I have been in both Las Vegas and Tucson and found both (especially Tucson) much easier to deal with than those areas back east.
Ken
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04-15-2008, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ponderosa
Holy Cow! I had no idea it was that bad in Chicago. That helps explain why they are moving here in droves. Thanks, xwideopenskyx for getting the facts out.
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What, the rare day that does occur?  If you think thats normal youve got another thing coming.  And while some move to AZ, Chicagoland still continues to grow.
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04-15-2008, 12:15 PM
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FYI -
Interesting page on summer heat in Illinois:
Summer Heat in Illinois
Ken
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04-15-2008, 12:22 PM
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Nice article, Ive read that before while researching. Just goes to show that heat waves like that are incredibly rare. During the summer months, our average temps are about perfect, in the 70s and 80s, with a few days in the 90s and maybe one or two days in the low 100s. Most days are very comfortable, with dewpoints in the 30s/40s/50s. And as the article states, when it hits the 60s, then it becomes Florida-like. Ugh. 70 and 80 dewpoints are very rare, thank goodness. And the reason so many died during that heat wave were because they were elderly, and w/o A/C units (yes, you can easily live in Chicagoland w/o A/C).
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04-15-2008, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve-o
Nice article, Ive read that before while researching. Just goes to show that heat waves like that are incredibly rare. During the summer months, our average temps are about perfect, in the 70s and 80s, with a few days in the 90s and maybe one or two days in the low 100s. Most days are very comfortable, with dewpoints in the 30s/40s/50s. And as the article states, when it hits the 60s, then it becomes Florida-like. Ugh. 70 and 80 dewpoints are very rare, thank goodness. And the reason so many died during that heat wave were because they were elderly, and w/o A/C units (yes, you can easily live in Chicagoland w/o A/C).
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Yeah, summer temps in the area are pretty nice - though the humidty is higher than I like so a bit less comfortable than I prefer. The real problem I have with places like East Coast and Midwest is that the warm weather is way to short for me and the winters far too cold. Winter is now a "been there, done that" kind of experience for me nowadays. I've lived in northern climates all my life (Colorado Springs is the furthest south I've live) so I am sooooooooo ready for a change.
Some folks like 4 seasons. Me, I'd prefer 1 - though I'll settle for 3 (no winter).
Ken
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04-15-2008, 01:51 PM
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I lived in the Midwest for 39 years I love this heat! And it keeps the weeds away!
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04-15-2008, 02:35 PM
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Yeah, summer temps in the area are pretty nice - though the humidty is higher than I like so a bit less comfortable than I prefer. The real problem I have with places like East Coast and Midwest is that the warm weather is way to short for me and the winters far too cold. Winter is now a "been there, done that" kind of experience for me nowadays. I've lived in northern climates all my life (Colorado Springs is the furthest south I've live) so I am sooooooooo ready for a change.
Some folks like 4 seasons. Me, I'd prefer 1 - though I'll settle for 3 (no winter).
Ken
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Different strokes for different folks.  Its generally pretty nice from April until mid-November here (50s/60s/70s/80s). So for 7-7.5 months you can wear a light coat or no coat at all. 4.5-5 months are solid coat weather.
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04-15-2008, 02:50 PM
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Steve-o -
As I've said before though, I didn't choose to retire to Phoenix or Yuma or any of the other blistering hot portions of the state - simply because I didn't want to live in an area that hot. I chose an area at a bit higher elevation where my summers are going to average in the low 90's and upper 80's and we have on average a mere 3 days a year where it gets over 100 (hottest day in the last 4 years was 101.5 - for one day last June).
But, we should have at least 6 (may 7 or more) months of the year when I can swim and winter is hardly winter at all (average daily high is just short of 60).
I LIKE IT!!!!!
Ken
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04-18-2008, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Barbie4747
I am from MN and we are looking to move to Phoenix. My husband and I were really worried about the heat, too. But, a friend of mine who has lived in both MN and AZ said to me - In MN, there is no escaping the cold and snow, and the stretch of misery is much longer. In AZ, you can always find ways to handle the exterme heat (as another poster said) and it doesn't last nearly as long as winter.
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Don't let anybody fool you...it is hotter than hell for the vast majority of the year in Phoenix...and you will get tired of living most of your daylight hours indoors with the AC blasting full time...Phoenix also does not cool off at night anymore...get ready for 90-100 degrees even at midnight.
Realistically 90's start in March and don't end until November...April and October can see 100 and May, June, July, August and September are pretty much above 100...and sometimes well above 100.
A nice change for a year or two but it wears on you big time.
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