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Old 07-10-2020, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Sarasota
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I could be wrong, but I think you will find it difficult to find 100-200 acres in a desirable area (creeks, wildlife, internet connection, etc). A lot of AZ land is government-owned, and the nice areas that aren't are quickly picked up by developers. Good luck, though.
I am sure you know more than I do but I am not in a hurry so I can wait until something comes up. Also, I had mentioned I don't need internet connection daily. I could deal with only having it a couple of times a week so I would be able to drive to reach a signal.
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Old 07-10-2020, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Sarasota
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The results speak for themselves. New Mexico has managed the pandemic far better than Arizona has. Our governor had announced a staged reopening plan only to toss it in the trash and throw the state's doors open the very day Trump showed up to look at mask manufacturing. As for the riots, he imposed an unnecessary STATEWIDE curfew at the behest of "local leaders" of one Phoenix suburb where looters raided an upscale mall. Since his rash reopening, our COVID numbers have exploded, and he had to close bars, gyms and water parks again yesterday. There is a LOT less "drama" in New Mexico, believe me.
While I think New Mexico is beautiful and I have a friend that lives in Northern NM but it really is way to blue for me. With blue always comes massive regulation, higher taxes, open invitation for riots do to lenience towards looting, tearing down statues, etc.,etc. NM is one of the few states that taxes Social Security. I'm a ways from SS but when the time comes, I don't want the Fed Gov to tax my SS. There are too many states that do not tax it so I don't want to live in a state that does tax it.

Arizona has major problems as well and as someone mentioned, Arizona will most likely have 2 Dem senators, but at least AZ doesn't tax SS and they have lenient gun laws VS NM which is strict.

I am leaving Florida, which is turning blue and I know most states will eventually be blue as Socialist politicians push their agenda, so at this point it is the lesser of the 2 evils. I am also looking at Arkansas which still is conservative and they don't tax disability, SS, etc.
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Old 07-10-2020, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Sarasota
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Just our little descriptor of Payson. It sits on the intersection of SH87 (Beeline Highway) and SH260. This is the closest gateway to the Forest for most East Valley (Phoenix) residents. Every Thurs/Fri/Sat there is a constant flow of traffic North through Payson and onto SH260 to get up to the Mogollon Rim, camping, lakes, etc. Every Sun/Mon the traffic reverses as all the Cityits/Flatlanders leave their trash and feces all over the forest and go back to the Valley.

There is a reason Payson has ~80 restaurants in a town of 15k people, many of them "fast food". They rely on drive thru traffic.

They have one Internet trunk that comes into town thru Strawberry. When that goes down (as it does from time to time) the whole town loses connection to the outside world. Cell towers, POS systems at stores, residential and business connectivity...gone until the fiber gets repaired. There has been some improvement here in the recent past but it has been a battle for years.

The Hospital is a Banner Health facility with about 30 beds. They can handle some emergencies but for the most part...if you get injured or need specialty care, you are going to the Valley. If it is urgent, you get to take a helicopter ride ($$$) which is why a lot of residents carry a membership/insurance agreement with PHI Air (the medical helicopter company that the hospital uses).

Basically...for the land you are looking for and the amenities you stated...Payson is not the place.
I love Payson. Your description of the Internet Trunk going down is interesting/scary. I know I have to give up a lot to be able to have the land I want and I am pretty flexible with that.

Florida is so crowded, turning so blue, so expensive, terrible taxes, noisy etc. I'll give you an example. I live 6 miles from a Walmart. There have been times that it took me 1.5 hrs to get there. 1 hr means I am making really good time. Between tourists crossing the road to get to the beach, stopping for the Trolley, stopping for buses, stopping for tourists looking for parking, stopping for tourists that step into traffic because they assume people will see them and stop for them.....The construction that never ends, daily lawnmowers, weed whackers, chain saws, fire trucks, ambulances, helicopters, jets, etc. So with all that I have dealt with, I am willing to travel for Internet!

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Old 07-10-2020, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Sarasota
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You would like the Prescott area. Great weather, conservative politics....
I love Prescott. We also moved to Prescott several years ago. When we go get back to AZ, we will probably stay in Prescott for a few nights. I just wish land was not so expensive!
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Old 07-10-2020, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Sarasota
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Hate to say it but Arizona is likely to have two democrat senators after November and with the way things are changing here a Democrat governor next time around is a possibility.

How about Utah? Southern Utah has similar weather to Northern Arizona and they won't be turning blue anytime soon.
I was looking at Utah the other day. I saw a show on HGTV and the area was beautiful. So that is on my shortlist as well! Do you have any suggestions of where in Southern Utah?
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Old 07-10-2020, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Sarasota
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Take it for what it's worth, but lived in Silver City NM for a while two decades ago. The hippies range from artists to gun-toting, pot smoking farmers along with a smattering of liberal academics at the small university that is there. Then you have the conservative bloc of ranchers and miners. Add in the Hispanics who have been in the area for over two hundred years that have a pretty unique culture and make the culinary scene if you like hot, spicy food a fantastic place. Seemed to me that not one group had enough people to control southern NM, so the politics made strange bedfellows. The dating scene was interesting as well, I'd see gun loving cowboys paired up with Grateful Dead groupies.
LOL sounds like a fun place to live years ago. Quite an eclectic group. Gun loving cowboys and Grateful Dead? LOL That would be quite an interesting thing to see!
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Old 07-10-2020, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Sarasota
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This. And I'd throw in the Pine top/Show low area.

But you should probably hop in the car and take a road trip through several States. There's a lot of nice places to live.
Is that area by Heber? I was looking at land there. It was called Chevlon Ranch??? or something like that. It looked beautiful.
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Old 07-10-2020, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Sarasota
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This. And I'd throw in the Pine top/Show low area.

But you should probably hop in the car and take a road trip through several States. There's a lot of nice places to live.
Is that area by Heber? I was looking at land there. It was called Chevlon Ranch??? or something like that. It looked beautiful and It seemed to have water because everything was green
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Old 07-11-2020, 10:36 AM
 
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I love Payson. Your description of the Internet Trunk going down is interesting/scary. I know I have to give up a lot to be able to have the land I want and I am pretty flexible with that.

Florida is so crowded, turning so blue, so expensive, terrible taxes, noisy etc. I'll give you an example. I live 6 miles from a Walmart. There have been times that it took me 1.5 hrs to get there. 1 hr means I am making really good time. Between tourists crossing the road to get to the beach, stopping for the Trolley, stopping for buses, stopping for tourists looking for parking, stopping for tourists that step into traffic because they assume people will see them and stop for them.....The construction that never ends, daily lawnmowers, weed whackers, chain saws, fire trucks, ambulances, helicopters, jets, etc. So with all that I have dealt with, I am willing to travel for Internet!
Why wouldn't that Hughes satellite internet work for you almost anywhere?
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Old 07-13-2020, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Millersville, Md and King George, Va
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Look at the Lake Powell, Page area. I really liked it the couple of times I have been there, want to go again, Now.
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