Flagstaff - Husband Says Yes - I Say No (apartment, schools)

[China Doll Me]

I don't know what that is... I think I just need a Retard & Crap Repellant..!!! Buy my time & get the hell out of looser dodge,"Flagstaff, Arziona" And move on to bigger & better things; that actually can make sense ethically or with some real morals.
You one line idiots give nowannamove better contect's. Quit the looser dramaing about this looser nit picking pietiness. You need to open your eye regarding Flagstaff or Arizona at that True Fact not candy coated Bull****.

[codasgirl04]

China~ Why are you on the City-data.com/forum? i think you are the one who needs counseling-JMO

[poolgirl51]

Originally Posted by China Doll Me

I don't know what that is... I think I just need a Retard & Crap Repellant..!!! Buy my time & get the hell out of looser dodge,"Flagstaff, Arziona" And move on to bigger & better things; that actually can make sense ethically or with some real morals.
You one line idiots give nowannamove better contect's. Quit the looser dramaing about this looser nit picking pietiness. You need to open your eye regarding Flagstaff or Arizona at that True Fact not candy coated Bull****.

Can you tell me what dramaing and pietiness mean? I think pietiness is pettyness but I have no idea what dramaing is. Also what is a contect? Thanks I appreciate the help.

[20yrsinBranson]

OMG I am soooooooo in agreement with you. I am NOT a *mountain* person, I am not a snow person, I am not a *go outside and walk around for no reason* person.

Give me warm December nights, give me the sound and smell of the ocean on a hot August day, let me watch the dolphins breaking the surface, let me walk along the beach collecting little sea shells and just digging my feet in the sand.

College towns are the pits. If you are not 18 years old you are invisible, you don't matter. Everything is for the college kids. Customer service at the store? Forget about it.

Florida (even non-beach parts) is head and shoulders above Flagstaff. I think you have figured out by now that he's not going to be happy there either. Better to stay where you are and be happy with what you have than go chasing some impossible dream and be miserable there.

But then again. It is the wife's duty, isn't it? To follow her husband to the ends of the earth, if necessary.

I'd oppose but I sure wouldn't get into a divorce over it.

It is a dirty, nasty little town, I agree. I haven't been to Payson or Prescott for 30 years or so, but they used to be much nicer.

20yrsinBranson

[carecare7]

g3x,

Yes, I have elementary age children and my teens were elementary age when we moved here 11 years ago. My kids love it here and raising them here was a bonus because of the fresh (not polluted) air and all the things for kids to do.

[nowannamove]

Hello,

Thank you for your comments. CareCare, I appreciate your detailed and thoughtful post.

We went to Flagstaff last week to visit, and surprisingly I found that it wasn't so bad (of course I'm trying to look on the positive side because my husband is set on moving). The people treated one another with dignity. It was youth friendly. There were some nice schools. There was no traffic. And, there were lots of inexpensive places to eat.

One thing I noticed was that the native american population is quite large, and many of the native americans seem to be poor, working in service jobs. Is there racial tension between the native american population and non-native americans in the general town? at the schools? If so, that is a concern. I'm hoping that folks get along and that there is not too much anger or tension between ethnic groups. (My hubby is white and I'm asian/hispanic)

If we move we plan to send our oldest son to Flagstaff High. What do you think of the school? My husband wants to move into the flag high boundary, while I'm more interested in the Country Club neighborhood. Wha areas in the flag high boundary would you reccomend? We will rent until the market bottoms out (which I think will take at least another year). After that we will purchase, but I prefer to rent in the area in which I plan to purchase. In the flag high area we thought that the foothills around cheshire might be nice. What do you think? Any other nice and affordable areas in the flag high boundary? By affordable, we are looking for single family homes that are currently priced under 550K.

We thought about Kachina and Mountainaire (which we have not seen in person yet), but the real estate agent did not take us there and implied that it was 'tacky' and 'red' out there. What do you think?

[nebulous1]

Originally Posted by nowannamove

I think that some may have misunderstood my post. NO I am not looking for ammunition. YES I do not want to move. I don't want to move at all, but especially I don't want to move to any city in Arizona. TRUE my husband and I are in total disagreement. It would be great if my husband and I could be in total agreement, but the fact is that he will probably force the move upon me and my two children.

I think that my opinion is far to one side and his is far to the other. I think that we are both being very biased. I'm looking for folks who live there to share with me their comments about cleanliness of city, crime, jobs, schools, etc. If the city is not dirty, where are these clean neighborhoods? What are their names? Where are the good schools? Where are the jobs? etc... that is what I want to know...specifics.... If I'm forced to move to Flagstaff i want to know what I'll be dealing with.

I've looked at the numbers, now I'm looking for info from residents.

To the person who commented on crime. I'm not making it up. Flagstaffs crime rate per capita is outrageous compared to where I currently live. but you say you have not seen crime? Is the crime limited to certain neighborhoods? if so what neighborhoods?

I am not a big city person nor am I originally from the East Coast. We currently live in a small, wealthy city in Florida. I like it here. My husband does not. And, more important, my kids like it here. My oldest is a junior in highschool and I think it is a crime to force him to move at this point in his life, particularly since my husband already has a good job here where we live.

As a single parent, I read this and thought, gee, it would be nice to have a husband who had a better job than mine.
I think a lot of married women take their situations for granted, and should live on the other side for awhile.
All of this "Little stuff" wouldn't matter so much if they were tied up in trying to survive.

[nowannamove]

Originally Posted by nebulous1

As a single parent, I read this and thought, gee, it would be nice to have a husband who had a better job than mine.
I think a lot of married women take their situations for granted, and should live on the other side for awhile.
All of this "Little stuff" wouldn't matter so much if they were tied up in trying to survive.

Yes, I agree that I would not want to be a single parent. I feel blessed to have a loving and prosperous huband.

However, I would like to humbly mention a few things:

a. married women deal with 'real problems' that are just as valid as those of single women. Having spouses who make good money does not negate our issues/concerns.

b. one of the reasons my husband has a good job and makes so much money is because from day one, his career and his ambitions have been a priority. I sacrifice for him and the kids so that he can have a good job and we can have a good life. There is no free ride.

c. That said, we have both worked hard to earn money for the family. At one time I was working 60 hours a week from my home office so that I could earn money while staying stay home and care for the young children. I still work from my home office and put in many hours.

[allforcats]

Marriage counseling is so useful in helping couples think creatively and relax their emotions, and find again that intimacy of partnership that the whole relationship was and is supposed to be about...

[Nearborn]

a. married women deal with 'real problems' that are just as valid as those of single women.

What problems does a married, stay-at-home mom deal with that are comparable to the problems dealt with by a single mom who works outside the house?

Seems like your biggest problem now is trying to convince the major breadwinner of the family that he'd be better off living in a very nice house in Flordia as opposed to a very nice house in Flagstaff. Lots of single moms dream about having those kinds of problems.

You already know you're not going to like it in Flagstaff. So if you can't convince your husband to stay either through the force of your personality, marriage counseling or whatever, you can either go along and be miserable, or just mildly unhappy if you make the most of it with the right attitude, or divorce him and enter the world of single moms and a drop in your standard of living, albeit with a very nice head start given the kind of standard of living you have now.

Personally, if I couldn't convince him to stay, I'd go along with him and make the most of it.