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11-14-2008, 10:10 PM
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Double murder in St. Johns ... committed by an eight year old
The St. Johns 8 Year Old Killer - Associated Content
Because of the rugrat's age, there are many people who claim that he needs to be protected because he's a victim. Victim??? Of WHAT??? Even if there were allegations of child abuse, that still doesn't constitute committing murder ... his own father yet!
Perhaps this sounds cold hearted ... but I'd like to see public hangings brought back, and for this little psychopath to swing high in the town square for what he did. Nobody can say that he didn't know any better. Kids should know right from wrong as early as three or four. We don't need to keep killers like this in society. Chances are that if he's capable of doing something this heinous at age eight, he could become a serial killer later in life. Fry the little bastard!!!
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11-16-2008, 11:41 AM
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Everyone surrounding this boy is a victim in this horrible crime. And the boys life is ruined forever.
You can't feel sorry for the boy when it was premeditated murder. He killed one person in an upstairs bedroom and another outside the house. He had plenty of time between the murders to think about what he had just done. He lost his chances for getting off easy when time lapsed between shootings, a big mistake on his part.
If anyone else would have been there, would he have shot them too.
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11-16-2008, 01:07 PM
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A crime like this would usually warrant the death penalty for punishment ... but because juvies are legally protected from harsh punishment, he is exempt from capital punishment. In 2005, the Supreme Court outlawed sentencing minors to death. Unfortunately, this is highly unlikely to change anytime soon ... especially beginning in 2009 when Obama will likely appoint very liberal justices to the Court who are opposed to capital punishment of any kind. It really demonstrates how passive we have become when we spare the lives of murderers, and especially juveniles who kill. Kids can be just as heinous (if not more so) than adult criminals. Rehabilitation seldom works ... so I say hang 'em high!!! It's a good form of population control anyway.
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11-16-2008, 06:29 PM
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I agree this was a terrible and pre-meditated act and the boy is most likely sociopathic and, hence, not rehabilitative...but I also am pretty sure there is much the public does not know yet. It will be interesting to see how this case unfolds.
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11-16-2008, 06:51 PM
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Eight year old kids in St. Johns don't just up and decide to off daddy and his pal one day. More will come out in this case. Why not reserve your condemnations and calls for the kid's execution until all the facts are known?
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11-16-2008, 10:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ponderosa
Eight year old kids in St. Johns don't just up and decide to off daddy and his pal one day. More will come out in this case. Why not reserve your condemnations and calls for the kid's execution until all the facts are known?
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My thoughts exactly.
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11-17-2008, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ponderosa
Eight year old kids in St. Johns don't just up and decide to off daddy and his pal one day. More will come out in this case. Why not reserve your condemnations and calls for the kid's execution until all the facts are known?
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I'm sure more will come out when the case unfolds. It will likely be the usual scenario: the kid didn't get enough attention, he was bullied in school, he was abused by his dad, he has self esteem problems, he didn't know any better, etc., etc. Perhaps there is more to it than we know ... but that still doesn't give anybody the right to commit a double murder.
My disgust about these juvenile criminals is how so many people automatically feel sorry for the little punks, and claim that they're victims themselves. What's even more disgusting is how the legal system protects kids too much, when there are just as many crimes being committed by juvies as there are by adults. I still think a good ol' hanging would be appropriate punishment for a crime like this ... regardless of how old the murderer is!
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11-17-2008, 12:42 PM
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"My disgust about these juvenile criminals is how so many people automatically feel sorry for the little punks, and claim that they're victims themselves. What's even more disgusting is how the legal system protects kids too much, when there are just as many crimes being committed by juvies as there are by adults. I still think a good ol' hanging would be appropriate punishment for a crime like this ... regardless of how old the murderer is!"
Anyone who would delight in the hanging of an eight year old boy is sick and repulsive.
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11-17-2008, 01:08 PM
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Anyone who would delight in the hanging of an eight year old boy is sick and repulsive.
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What's the difference between an eight year old murderer and a 38 year old killer??? Different ages, but same crimes. Therefore, the same punishment should apply regardless of age. Besides, swift execution is an effective form of population control because it weeds out the bad seeds of society.
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