bullying in the schools (lessons, race, system)

[jaada]

Originally Posted by jaada

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my smileys didnt work. it was suppose to be a smile - maybe it will work this time lol

[rich67]

Yaaaaaaay! You got it now. LOL

[shadow91]

I haven't responded because I felt as if I were being attacked for asking what my friend could do to hellp her son. I thought perhaps someone had been through this and had some suggestions. I have come to the conclusion that the attacks here are probably from someone who has no idea of what it is really like to be bullied or are/were bullies themselves. This is not funny what some of these kids are going through. The thing here is that he gets beat for saying things that the other kids say. It is alright for them to say he is a *****, post pictures of him all over the school with drawings on his face and body, jump him in the bathroom, take his stuff and throw it on the roof of the school, make him give them money, tell everyone on myspace that he has aids and other diseases? I think that this discussion is closed as I can see that no one here has any suggestions to help. And whoever wrote school kids are not the same is right, one boy at that school walked into the counselors office and told the counselor he was going to return to school with a gun and kill certain students. He was arrested, it was put in the paper, the following school year he was back? Why? Is this normal the way we live? I remember growing up and kids being bullied by calling them big nose, green teeth, etc, but not to the point of jumping someone, posting filth about someone, stealing their money. I can only hope that the posters here who have posted negative about this kid never have to go through what he and his mom are going through. All I wanted to do was offer her some suggestions. Oh and this kid played sports for 3 years and each and every sport he was beat up in the locer room continually while the coaches saw nothing, punched in the gut while on the football field by one while he was just standing there, all on tape of course, yet this kid loved football and would keep going back. This is not about what one kid is doing to cause this kind of behavior from other kids, this is rich kids that know they can get away with it and do it for the sport of it. The principal told my friend when she went to the school that he just found out he had a bunch of "mean girls" cheerleaders bullying one girl to the point that this girl tried to harm herself. He immediately suspended them after investigating and finding truth to the story and the parents went to the school board who immediately told the principal that he could not suspend those girls and to take it off of their records. And why does everyone here say move, go to another school, hoe school? What does that teach the bully? That it is okay to do what they are doing. I hope and pray that none of you have to go trhough this as my friend has.

[rich67]

Did you even bother to read ANY of the threads here??? You have some nerve saying no one offered any kind of constructive input to try to give you insight into this matter. I think I know what this is about; you didn't hear what YOU wanted to hear, so there was NO GOOD ADVICE given to you. What else do you want people to say??? You heard both sides of the argument- stay and tough it out, leave and go to a new school, blah blah blah. DO YOU HONESTLY THINK that a simple solution to a problem such as bullying can be found on an internet forum?? Particularly one that is mainly designed for people to talk about experiences with cities, and get an idea of where they should relocate to. You're right, close this thread. It's in the wrong section anyhow. Should be under OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with Arizona specifically. Bullying is a nationwide school problem.
You weren't being "attacked"; either. If that's how you took it, then I apologize if I said something to offend. Just trying to give you a realistic opinion.
And yes, IN CASE YOU DIDNT READ, I did state that I too was a victim of bullying when I grew up, and I had to deal with it when my oldest daughter just got into high school. I showed her how to deal with it (this was a year ago), and she is doing great now, and friends with the girls who caused her problems. Next time, spend some time to THOROUGHLY read the posts and don't wear blinders when people offer opinions. It's your prerogative to disagree, but don't come in here and slam the people who offered some assistance.

[jaada]

omg we were all trying to help and offer advice. rich is right this is not a board for this anyways.

[Bikerchick_KF]

wow... ok.. i will just say one thing..

I was bullied in school as well, but from 6th grade all the way through HS, I was homeschooled. I was pulled away from all that nonsense and actually learned what I had to. I did very well in college, even got my masters! I suggest pulling the kids from school and teaching them at home or getting tutors. If you pull them from one school and put them in another, you will find the same thing.

seriously, those bullies will not be dealt with either by the parents or the school or the cops, do what's best for your child's future instead of forcing others to change their kids.

[shadow91]

I will not reply anymore after this, but wanted everyone to know what has happened since my last post. My friend was telling me that for the last 3 weeks someone has been coming on her porch knocking loudly on her door late at night, by the time she gets to the door, they are running up the street. Last Friday night, she left her door unlocked because her brother was coming over from Phoenix to spend the night, her son was snowboarding in Flagstaff. She heard the front door open and assumed it was her brother. When he didn't answer her and her large dogs started barking loudly, she got out of bed and started towards the door, hearing the door slam. As she approached the door, she saw chocolate syrup, eggs and shave cream all over her hallway. She opened the door and her house on the outside had been trashed by these little vandals. Filthy images on the driveway and filthy sayings about her son. She called 911 and it took 35 minutes for them to respond. The neighbor said he saw a bunch of boys and girls running towards a parked car by the wash. The day before she received a call from the principal that a list of 5 boys and 2 girls names were written on a desk at school with "hit list" above the names. But not to worry, it was a prank. But she found out that one of the girls also had her house vandalized that same night. She is frantic, scared to death. The cop hasn't even made out an "official" report yet. When she calls the cop station, they tell her that he is "off duty" and will not return till such and such a day. These little hoodlums left their goods behind, all bought at a local safeway store. The cop told her he would get video tape of who bought those items. The manager said no one has requested them and it has been a week. I can understand that bullying is bullying and to get over it, but when they cross the line and vandalize your property and enter your home, what do you call that?

[rich67]

MODS PLEASE TAKE THIS OUT OF THE ARIZONA FORUMS!!!!! OFF TOPIC FTW!!

[Taylorrae9]

My children are all doing well and bullying is no longer and issue. I think moving schools after a child has been a target does help. I think that maybe a child can start over and recreate themselves. I coached my children and we went over what worked and did not work in the previous school. I have a kindergarten aged child and am doing things much differently. I chose a school carefully and have decided to stick with it. However, I did not choose a school that had a problem with Bullying. I made my mistakes on the older children and hopefully they will grow from their experience.

As for defending yourself - I do agree that they must defend themselves. The schools do not seem to be able to manage the behaviors of all the children. It is sad.

[Taylorrae9]

Oh and by the way - bullying happens in all states - I was not picking on Arizona - what a mistake that was. As for choosing schools that address bullying that is a statewide issue. Sorry to have offended so many. Peace to all of you.