Munds Park Warning (Phoenix, Flagstaff, Pine: credit, buying a home, buying)

[jim ziska]

I just thought I would give a warning to anyone who is thinking of buying a home or cabin in or around Munds Park, Arizona, which is about 17 miles south of Flagstaff.

The Arizona Game and Fish Department is planning to trade for 5,000 acres of Coconino National Forest a few miles north of Munds Park where they intend to build a regional shooting range and huge campground.

Game and Fish will be having ranges for high power rifles, shotguns, pistols, and archery. They will hold special events which will draw thousands of people to our area and create a dangerously overcrowded situation. The campground will have space for hundreds of motor homes.

Our quiet peacefulness we love here will be destroyed. Our herds of deer, elk, and other wildlife will not stay around. The shooting range will be open 7 days a week, eight hours a day year round.

We worry about the gun noise all year and stray bullets which could travel this far from anyone accidentally discharging a weapon in the campground.
If you have any suggestions or are concerned about Munds Park, please reply. Thanks for reading my sad tale.
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[leavingPhoenix]

i know someone who is building up there, I'll pass your message along. Too bad, you can see from my sign-in I've had enough. This state is out of control.

[a41capt]

Originally Posted by jim ziska

I just thought I would give a warning to anyone who is thinking of buying a home or cabin in or around Munds Park, Arizona, which is about 17 miles south of Flagstaff.

The Arizona Game and Fish Department is planning to trade for 5,000 acres of Coconino National Forest a few miles north of Munds Park where they intend to build a regional shooting range and huge campground.

Game and Fish will be having ranges for high power rifles, shotguns, pistols, and archery. They will hold special events which will draw thousands of people to our area and create a dangerously overcrowded situation. The campground will have space for hundreds of motor homes.

Our quiet peacefulness we love here will be destroyed. Our herds of deer, elk, and other wildlife will not stay around. The shooting range will be open 7 days a week, eight hours a day year round.

We worry about the gun noise all year and stray bullets which could travel this far from anyone accidentally discharging a weapon in the campground.
If you have any suggestions or are concerned about Munds Park, please reply. Thanks for reading my sad tale.
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Oh please!!! Would you rather have people out in the woods behind your house shooting in all directions instead of on a carefully planned, moderated, and safe shooting range? As for the animals leaving, I guess you've never been to the Ben Avery Center in Phoenix where hunting is banned and all sorts of animals from ground squirrels and quail to deer and javelina live protected in the middle of an urban environment. As a hunter I can assure you that animals do not leave an area because of loud noises, they leave an area because of people walking, partying and riding quads like idiots all through the woods! Even then it takes HUGE numbers of folks doing these things to scare them off, and when they move on, the next herd takes their place.

As far as noise, you're kidding, right? I've been to Pinewood and the noise from Interstate 17 will drown out the shooting range by 50 or 60 decibels! I've lived next door to shooting ranges and shooting "areas" for years, and give me a well regulated and professional range any day. The folks that frequent these places are friendly, competitive spirited athletes and/or others that just like a place to meet like-minded people and enjoy their hobby.

When it comes to accidental firearm discharges in the campgrounds, there is a higher likelihood that your neighbor will accidentally shoot you with his or her "unloaded" weapon while they are playing with it. Competitors and hobby shooters that are likely to camp in this sort of environment are safe, careful and reliable handlers of their weapons. Their guns never leave the firing line loaded, and even then, they are always handled as if they were loaded (the first rule in gun safety is that EVERY firearm is ALWAYS loaded).

Most of the users and campers are retirees like many of the residents of Pinewood, just maybe not as narrow minded or uneducated in the ways of the world.

The only "sad" part to this tale is that you are allowed to publish half truths and fear mongering on a public website...

[motormaker]

Wow, dragging up a 2 + year old post an on top of that the OP only has 1 post to his credit.

[zonababe]

Originally Posted by a41capt

Oh please!!! Would you rather have people out in the woods behind your house shooting in all directions instead of on a carefully planned, moderated, and safe shooting range? As for the animals leaving, I guess you've never been to the Ben Avery Center in Phoenix where hunting is banned and all sorts of animals from ground squirrels and quail to deer and javelina live protected in the middle of an urban environment. As a hunter I can assure you that animals do not leave an area because of loud noises, they leave an area because of people walking, partying and riding quads like idiots all through the woods! Even then it takes HUGE numbers of folks doing these things to scare them off, and when they move on, the next herd takes their place.

As far as noise, you're kidding, right? I've been to Pinewood and the noise from Interstate 17 will drown out the shooting range by 50 or 60 decibels! I've lived next door to shooting ranges and shooting "areas" for years, and give me a well regulated and professional range any day. The folks that frequent these places are friendly, competitive spirited athletes and/or others that just like a place to meet like-minded people and enjoy their hobby.

When it comes to accidental firearm discharges in the campgrounds, there is a higher likelihood that your neighbor will accidentally shoot you with his or her "unloaded" weapon while they are playing with it. Competitors and hobby shooters that are likely to camp in this sort of environment are safe, careful and reliable handlers of their weapons. Their guns never leave the firing line loaded, and even then, they are always handled as if they were loaded (the first rule in gun safety is that EVERY firearm is ALWAYS loaded).

Most of the users and campers are retirees like many of the residents of Pinewood, just maybe not as narrow minded or uneducated in the ways of the world.

The only "sad" part to this tale is that you are allowed to publish half truths and fear mongering on a public website...

I'm more worried about the people who shoot bullet holes in street and traffic signs, we have way too much of that in AZ.