African American Community throughout Arizona (Phoenix: live, shopping mall, racism)

[PugLuv1]

You moved from AZ to GA...i was thinking about doing the same...or either Houston. I guess i miss th BIG city life. Even though i lived in the burbs in Chicago i still would go downtown and get some good ol popcorn, or go to the westside and get some Bar-b-que, or some wings/fish. I guess you don't know what you had to it's gone.

Originally Posted by kungfufighting

I was one of a lucky few in AZ to grow up in a majority AA community. It is kind of rare in Phoenix, but it is possible to find other African Americans there. South Phoenix used to have a relatively large AA community but since gentrification stepped in it has dispersed throughout the city. The community used to have a degree of political power with city council (I think there still is 1 although I live in ATL now). I also think there is an AA state senator from SP still. The community has been dispersed not by whites but largely by Latinos. Phx is about 35% Latino. But don't be discouraged in South and Central Phx there still is a vibrant AA community with churches and hair dressers and restaurants and such. I think people who like to dismiss PHX as having no AAs live in the burbs or in N. Phoenix. Also someone mentioned a church on 32nd and McDowell. I used to go to Word of Faith it is a mostly AA church, but it is on around 26th and McDowell, not sure if were talking about the same place. Great church though.

[kungfufighting]

Yeah there is always something to miss about home. ATL where I live has so much to offer in the good food dept. Sometimes I miss MS. Whites or wings from Long Wongs. ATL is so sprawling anyway. It's alot like PHX in many ways. You know traffic, urban sprawl, bad public transportation.

[PugLuv1]

Yeah i heard the traffic is really bad there...i know someone who lives in Lawrenceville....who use to live here.

Originally Posted by kungfufighting

Yeah there is always something to miss about home. ATL where I live has so much to offer in the good food dept. Sometimes I miss MS. Whites or wings from Long Wongs. ATL is so sprawling anyway. It's alot like PHX in many ways. You know traffic, urban sprawl, bad public transportation.

[phoenixblack]

I've noticed within the last 5 years that African American women in Phoenix really seem to be disgusted when black men approach them in a public venue (nightclub, shopping mall, networking event, school, etc.).

I am singling out black women because I am a heterosexual male and I am not interested in approaching men!

Obviously, black women have reasons to frustrated with some black men and vice versa because of interracial dating, abusive relationships, financial irresponsibility, etc.

However, I have faith that the majority of black men (in Phoenix and across the nation) are good people. Lately, it just seems that many black women are incredibly rude to black men in public. Either they'll rudely walk away without saying a word to the men who approach them, laugh at them, embarass them loudly or look at them like they're crazy!

The latest trend that I've seen is that a woman will go out on the dance floor with a brotha and then leave him in mid-song to go hug or dance with another brotha!

If you're not interested, that's fine, but please be polite about it!

If I am way off-base please let me know!

But this is an obvious and alarming trend because I've had talks with many brothas about this topic within the last few months!

Holla!

[AZ_singlemother]

Originally Posted by phoenixblack

I've noticed within the last 5 years that African American women in Phoenix really seem to be disgusted when black men approach them in a public venue (nightclub, shopping mall, networking event, school, etc.).

I am singling out black women because I am a heterosexual male and I am not interested in approaching men!

Obviously, black women have reasons to frustrated with some black men and vice versa because of interracial dating, abusive relationships, financial irresponsibility, etc.

However, I have faith that the majority of black men (in Phoenix and across the nation) are good people. Lately, it just seems that many black women are incredibly rude to black men in public. Either they'll rudely walk away without saying a word to the men who approach them, laugh at them, embarass them loudly or look at them like they're crazy!

The latest trend that I've seen is that a woman will go out on the dance floor with a brotha and then leave him in mid-song to go hug or dance with another brotha!

If you're not interested, that's fine, but please be polite about it!

If I am way off-base please let me know!

But this is an obvious and alarming trend because I've had talks with many brothas about this topic within the last few months!

Holla!

Don't take it personally. It's with the area and is the same reaction received within all cultures in AZ, especially Phoenix. I cannot wait to leave the area which is not really culturally diverse and no enough positive activities for singles for sure. It's a hard place to meet people.

[PugLuv1]

Originally Posted by phoenixblack

I've noticed within the last 5 years that African American women in Phoenix really seem to be disgusted when black men approach them in a public venue (nightclub, shopping mall, networking event, school, etc.).

I am singling out black women because I am a heterosexual male and I am not interested in approaching men!

Obviously, black women have reasons to frustrated with some black men and vice versa because of interracial dating, abusive relationships, financial irresponsibility, etc.

However, I have faith that the majority of black men (in Phoenix and across the nation) are good people. Lately, it just seems that many black women are incredibly rude to black men in public. Either they'll rudely walk away without saying a word to the men who approach them, laugh at them, embarass them loudly or look at them like they're crazy!

The latest trend that I've seen is that a woman will go out on the dance floor with a brotha and then leave him in mid-song to go hug or dance with another brotha!

If you're not interested, that's fine, but please be polite about it!

If I am way off-base please let me know!

But this is an obvious and alarming trend because I've had talks with many brothas about this topic within the last few months!

Holla!

You are so correct...i've seen women in Chgo do that to a guy on the dance floor. But me personally if i really didn't want to dance with you in the first place i'm going to say "No Thank You" when you ask me. I've always been polite...because i don't want any mess and i don't want to be rude to other's. Also i think if most of the single black women are singing the same song about the black men here in AZ...it must be true. Actually it's starting to happen with the kids. I have two daughter's, one is in 7th grade and the other one is in her 2nd year of college and most of there friends are non-african american, but all of there friends like black boys. So now i think there is a little competition. Well I'm not going to give up on my black men because that's what i like...but BOY they got me wondering

[missusparsons]

Originally Posted by phoenixblack

I've noticed within the last 5 years that African American women in Phoenix really seem to be disgusted when black men approach them in a public venue (nightclub, shopping mall, networking event, school, etc.).

I am singling out black women because I am a heterosexual male and I am not interested in approaching men!

Obviously, black women have reasons to frustrated with some black men and vice versa because of interracial dating, abusive relationships, financial irresponsibility, etc.

However, I have faith that the majority of black men (in Phoenix and across the nation) are good people. Lately, it just seems that many black women are incredibly rude to black men in public. Either they'll rudely walk away without saying a word to the men who approach them, laugh at them, embarass them loudly or look at them like they're crazy!

The latest trend that I've seen is that a woman will go out on the dance floor with a brotha and then leave him in mid-song to go hug or dance with another brotha!

If you're not interested, that's fine, but please be polite about it!

If I am way off-base please let me know!

But this is an obvious and alarming trend because I've had talks with many brothas about this topic within the last few months!

Holla!

Are you sure that they just aren't "taken"...
The reason I ask is cause Phoenix is generally an area where people move to settle down with their family (due to lower cost of living and lifestyle). I know many women will go out to the clubs with their girlfriends (even though they have a man and/or family). In those cases they might be fine dancing with you for a song - but will get uncomfortable when it seems like you are trying to "push up" on them. Just a thought to consider.

[phoenixblack]

This isn't just an "in-the-club" issue.

I've noticed that black women have been rude to me and other brothas in professional networking sessions, social gatherings, shopping malls, bookstores, etc.

I'm not lookin' to holla because I'm in a committed relationship, but if I just want to be cordial and say hello, I feel like I've committed a crime! You suck your teeth, roll your eyes, etc.

I'm just trying to encourage more women to take a deep breath and not take themselves too seriously while they're out in public. It doesn't hurt to crack a smile once in a while!

Even if you're attracting people that you don't like, you can still be polite when dealing with them.

[missusparsons]

Originally Posted by phoenixblack

This isn't just an "in-the-club" issue.

I've noticed that black women have been rude to me and other brothas in professional networking sessions, social gatherings, shopping malls, bookstores, etc.

I'm not lookin' to holla because I'm in a committed relationship, but if I just want to be cordial and say hello, I feel like I've committed a crime! You suck your teeth, roll your eyes, etc.

I'm just trying to encourage more women to take a deep breath and not take themselves too seriously while they're out in public. It doesn't hurt to crack a smile once in a while!

Even if you're attracting people that you don't like, you can still be polite when dealing with them.

All I have to say to this is "Seek, and you shall find"
Myself and plenty of other Black women in Phoenix would beg to differ with your assessments.

[PugLuv1]

Well i may be wrong but it seems like there are a lot of black women here who would love for a brotha to say hello to them or etc. From the few women i have met in the past few weeks are all the same page. That the black men here in AZ seem to date out of there race. That's biggest problem i've heard and i feel the same way and i've only been here 7 months. So BROTHA'S...you guy's need to step your game up a little and LOVE your black SISTA"S. I met a lady the other day who told me maybe you need to date out of you race.....and i told her sorry but's not happening. I LOVE the bortha's!!