Summary of Half The Posts On These Boards (Phoenix: apartment, mobile home)
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1. This place sucks because I don't like it! (Or because I moved here last year and I thought it would be great but it isn't).
2. OMG! I was thinking of moving here but I'm reconsidering because of all the negativity I see here!!
1... If someone is considering a move and asks for your help, please give them some information to help them make one of the most important decisions in their lives, not a rant.
2... If you are considering a move, don't be discouraged just because of the negative posts. Remember that it is usually the unhappy, angry people who talk the loudest (I suppose it's cheaper than seeing a psychologist)! I have some friends in Orange County (SoCal) and so I was just looking at the O.C. threads. One of them is entitled something like "Orange County is the Anus of the World." These angry, negative people are on all the boards. Don't let them get you down.
One of the main reasons people give for moving to Arizona in the first place is the lower cost of living. They arrive with big dreams instead of a more realistic view. If someone who is a low-skilled worker moves from say New York to Arizona chances are they are still only going to be employed in low-skill jobs in Arizona, which means they will again find themselves in lower-cost housing. Arizona is like anywhere else in the United States. If you want better pay and higher-cost housing you are going to have to get off your butt and TRAIN or get an EDUCATION. For those who do not feel comfortable or able to obtain higher education or training, consider working two jobs. If you want something bad enough you'll work hard to get it. If you can't or won't work a second because you want to spend time with your children, then you have to be prepared to sacrifice the dream of having something better than what you currently have and just be happy with the extra time you have with your children, whether you live in an apartment, mobile home or a mansion.
Where you live does not guarantee a good life. Its what YOU are willing to do to aquire your dreams or goals, no matter WHERE you live.
Every day people manage to move great distances to get away from a place that they hate. Poor people do it, rich people do it and those with incomes in between the two extremes do it.
Like saguarodave said, ignore the negative people. They hate Arizona enough to constantly complain about it but they don't have the will-power to leave, so they try to chase others away.
so true...lower cost of living doesn't necessaraly mean a better life. You must be somewhere you want to be. My mother lives in Hawaii and works as a nurse. She gets people from the mainland all the time complaining how they hate hawaii. They thought living in paradise meant no worries. No matter where you live it is still life...bills to pay, work, good times bad times, etc. Moving to another place doesn't mean your life will be in better or happier. you as a person have to make that happen.
Location: Sunny Phoenix Arizona...wishing for a beach.
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Originally Posted by beanchokiki
so true...lower cost of living doesn't necessaraly mean a better life. You must be somewhere you want to be. My mother lives in Hawaii and works as a nurse. She gets people from the mainland all the time complaining how they hate hawaii. They thought living in paradise meant no worries. No matter where you live it is still life...bills to pay, work, good times bad times, etc. Moving to another place doesn't mean your life will be in better or happier. you as a person have to make that happen.
It helps to move yourself to a place that is not recessed and has better opportunity to improve your life.
Location: Sunny Phoenix Arizona...wishing for a beach.
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Wise words, saguarodave.
One of the main reasons people give for moving to Arizona in the first place is the lower cost of living. They arrive with big dreams instead of a more realistic view. If someone who is a low-skilled worker moves from say New York to Arizona chances are they are still only going to be employed in low-skill jobs in Arizona, which means they will again find themselves in lower-cost housing. Arizona is like anywhere else in the United States. If you want better pay and higher-cost housing you are going to have to get off your butt and TRAIN or get an EDUCATION. For those who do not feel comfortable or able to obtain higher education or training, consider working two jobs. If you want something bad enough you'll work hard to get it. If you can't or won't work a second because you want to spend time with your children, then you have to be prepared to sacrifice the dream of having something better than what you currently have and just be happy with the extra time you have with your children, whether you live in an apartment, mobile home or a mansion.
Where you live does not guarantee a good life. Its what YOU are willing to do to aquire your dreams or goals, no matter WHERE you live.
Every day people manage to move great distances to get away from a place that they hate. Poor people do it, rich people do it and those with incomes in between the two extremes do it.
Like saguarodave said, ignore the negative people. They hate Arizona enough to constantly complain about it but they don't have the will-power to leave, so they try to chase others away.
I agree! So many people have this gimmie gimmie attitude. What about trying to get an education and advance yourself? I came to Phoenix not only for the weather but for opportunity and the cost of living helped also.
Cudos to Kathy Vassalli, one of those who did not blame all of her problems on the State of Arizona, its heat, Mexican population, bad traffic, pollution, poor economy, rattlesnakes, scorpions, tarantulas, Valley Fever, dessert or mobile homes. This woman displays what it takes to be a strong, single mother who wants to better her life in Arizona for herself and her children. What a shining example of tenacity and determination.
Thank you. I love inspirational stories like that. Everyone has potential. And funny thing is, my pediatrician - when I was real young thought I had learning disability. This does touch me in many ways.
These angry, negative people are on all the boards. Don't let them get you down.
Because we used to live in CA, TX, and AZ, I lurk around, checking opinions and views of people. Now we live in CO and there doesn't seem to be nearly as much negativity on the CO forum. Maybe I'm a little biased or maybe CO is the BEST place in the universe and people are happy with their relocation to CO. We are. But I know everyone has priorities in what they want from an area.
Check out the CO forum to see if there are any angry, negative threads.
Because we used to live in CA, TX, and AZ, I lurk around, checking opinions and views of people. Now we live in CO and there doesn't seem to be nearly as much negativity on the CO forum. Maybe I'm a little biased or maybe CO is the BEST place in the universe and people are happy with their relocation to CO. We are. But I know everyone has priorities in what they want from an area.
Check out the CO forum to see if there are any angry, negative threads.
I'm from CO, and actually, I'm there right now visiting for a couple of weeks-- enjoying BEAUTIFUL 70 degree, sunny weather in Denver today . Everything is green and spring time here, and such a refreshing change from the hot, dirty, Phoenix dustbowl. I check the CO/Denver forums all the time too-- I'm not sure if their forum is any better, just different. I'm sick of hearing these self-righteous "native fourth generation Coloradans" going on a rampage about how group X from state Y is ruining their state, turning every post into right wing political ranting. Every post has a comment like, "don't you dare bring those other ways of doing things to our sacred state." I'm not going to name names, but you probably know who I'm talking about. Arizona, as far as I can tell, does not have a culture of resentment towards newcomers, simply because almost everybody is from somewhere else. AZ feels like more of a welcoming, campy- kind of place-- at least on the internet.
I'm not sure if their forum is any better, just different. I'm sick of hearing these self-righteous "native fourth generation Coloradans" going on a rampage about how group X from state Y is ruining their state, turning every post into right wing political ranting. Every post has a comment like, "don't you dare bring those other ways of doing things to our sacred state." I'm not going to name names, but you probably know who I'm talking about. Arizona, as far as I can tell, does not have a culture of resentment towards newcomers, simply because almost everybody is from somewhere else. AZ feels like more of a welcoming, campy- kind of place-- at least on the internet.
Thanks for this. I have noticed the same things about Coloradans... and as a California native, you can imagine the "welcoming" response I have recieved when visiting CO
I find AZ to be much more accepting of newcomers.
Also, there is another thing I find comical about the AZ board -- People here seem to suffer from the same type of self-hate that pervades Los Angeles (and to a lesser extent So. Cal). When I lived in L.A., all I ever heard was: "people are stuck up", "traffic sucks", "urban sprawl", "no urban center", yada yada yada. But these complaints were so ubiquitous it almost seemed like a fashionable (group bonding) thing to say.
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