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10-31-2009, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by KarmaPhx
I have never met a person from the res who called themselves a Indian, most are offended by it. One of my coworkers confirmed this, she grew up on the res near Page.
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Well Josh - as KDog notes - you are mistaken on a lot of levels
Why not try a trip to the Heard Museum on Central Avenue - and you will see a lot of references to "Indian". Guranteed.
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11-01-2009, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Greatday
Well Josh - as KDog notes - you are mistaken on a lot of levels
Why not try a trip to the Heard Museum on Central Avenue - and you will see a lot of references to "Indian". Guranteed.
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So you're telling me the person who grew up on the res is a liar?
I really don't care, especially not enough to make a visit to the Heard museum. Calling someone who is not from India an Indian is not politically correct, and to some is offensive.
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11-01-2009, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by KarmaPhx
So you're telling me the person who grew up on the res is a liar?
I really don't care, especially not enough to make a visit to the Heard museum. Calling someone who is not from India an Indian is not politically correct, and to some is offensive.
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All I can tell you, with absolute certainty is, those on the Reservation call themselves Indians. And, that is a fact.
And, why wouldn't you go the Heard? The displays and artificats are wonderous. It is something to behold - and will give you fantastic insights into the History of Arizona.
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11-01-2009, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Greatday
All I can tell you, with absolute certainty is, those on the Reservation call themselves Indians. And, that is a fact.
And, why wouldn't you go the Heard? The displays and artificats are wonderous. It is something to behold - and will give you fantastic insights into the History of Arizona.
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I am not calling you a liar, I am just saying the person I am working with currently is saying otherwise.
And for the Heard museum, it's a great museum, just not my "thing" I guess I could say.
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11-01-2009, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by KarmaPhx
So you're telling me the person who grew up on the res is a liar? 
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This is where the problem lies. (Where I bolded and underlined it)
It's just the opinion from one person's perspective.
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11-01-2009, 08:37 AM
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If you look at the websites of the various tribes, I think it's clear that the trend is to call themselves Native Americans rather than Indians. Someday it will probably be politically incorrect to call them Indians. However, in as much as the Federal government calls them Indians (think BIA), Hollywood still calls them Indians, they advertise Indian Casinos (see Welcome to IndianCasinos.com), there exists Indian Reservations (who ever heard of a Native Amercan Reservation?), it's obviously ignorant to claim that calling them Indians is ignorant.
It will be a long road, but I think eventually they will succeed in getting everybody to call them Native Americans. Of course, having done so, you can bet the next generation will realize that their people inhabited this country long before it was called America and so they'll reject that too in favor of the actual name of their ancestral home, and in another 200 years they'll succeed at that as well. After all, it's only right. I myself am becoming tired of everyone calling me "white". I look in the mirror and I don't see any white at all. So until I come up with something better, I would prefer if ya'll refer to me as pigmentally challenged.
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11-01-2009, 09:29 AM
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I was born here in America....so I am a native American.
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11-01-2009, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by southernbuckeye
Might be getting a job in Polacca. Would be moving from North Carolina.
Could anyone please give me information about the area? Very little on the internet since it is Hopi Indian area. Housing, stores, utilities, weather, etc? Is the area friendly to newcomers? Are hospital employees welcome? If I take the job and move, should I have a 4-wheeler? Thank you! 
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I'm not sure if you are just looking at places that are on or near reservations to work on, but thought I would give you my two cents. In the Navajo/Hopi regions of Arizona, it is very desolate and sparse. There are cities here and there where the people go for groceries and such, but live in these smaller areas. Flagstaff is the level two (I believe) trauma center where most of the folks from that Indian reservation go to. My brother worked in the ICU there, and was happy with the hospital, but got tired of all the alcohol poisoning, people who came in the ER just because they were drunk and needed a place to sleep it off, and many, many, cases of those with diabetes having issues arise. You are going to find these same cases in any area that serves an Indian reservation though. You would most likely have to live in Winslow, Window Rock, or even Flagstaff if you were serving Polacca. Even those working for the reservation can not live on the reservation.
Other communities that might interest you San Jose Indian Reservation (Apache), you can commute from Globe/Miami AZ or Safford, AZ, and Anything that serves the White Mountain Area of Arizona (also Apache). Also, there is the Tohono O'odom surrounding Tucson.
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11-01-2009, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by acrylic
This is where the problem lies. (Where I bolded and underlined it)
It's just the opinion from one person's perspective.
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No, it's her entire familly and local tribe who gets offended, maybe it's a local thing. She's 52 years old, maybe she is just becoming old and senile like some of the people around here?
I have no reason not to believe her, if she is telling me they get offended being called Indian, then I have no reason to call her an Indian.
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11-01-2009, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KarmaPhx
No, it's her entire familly and local tribe who gets offended, maybe it's a local thing. She's 52 years old, maybe she is just becoming old and senile like some of the people around here?
I have no reason not to believe her, if she is telling me they get offended being called Indian, then I have no reason to call her an Indian.
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Then don't call her that... but don't make broad accusations about people being "ignorant" for doing something that one person and her family (and supposedly her "local tribe"-- what is a "local tribe", btw?) don't like.
I certainly hope the OP has the info she needs... this thread has strayed a bit.
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