Arizona passes strict illegal immigration act (Mesa: ski resort, assault, snow)

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by Boompa

How will charging illegals with a crime and jailing them help?
That's what the new law does

Trust me: the mere threat of being rousted by LE is running illegal aliens off by the THOUSANDS every week

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by goodneighbor1234

You left out the best part of the article. The reason they're not sending the letter to Arizona:


“I don’t think us putting a letter in a newspaper is going to sway someone’s personal opinion on an issue they feel strongly about,” Terzi said. “But when it’s 100-plus degrees for 60 days in a row (in the Phoenix area), and we’re a four-hour drive and a 30-minute flight away, we still feel comfortable (that) Arizonans will visit San Diego.”

San Diego is not worried that Arizonans will boycott.

I live here in the Phx area and we are quite PISSED at those treasonous losers who 'run' or, is that MISrun things in San Diego, LA, SF, etc.

[Boompa]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

I live here in the Phx area and we are quite PISSED at those treasonous losers who 'run' or, is that MISrun things in San Diego, LA, SF, etc.

I live in Arizona too, and I am disgusted that people in Mesa would elect someone like Russell Pearce, with Nazi connections, who came up with these laws. The people boycotting are correct

[rxpwas]

Originally Posted by Kris000

I think it's so hypocritical when people declare Arizona to be immoral but then support a boycott that will harm many innocent people. We should all be applauding Arizona for putting the needs of their legal residents ahead of law breaking illegals who drain on the limited funds of the country and the individual states. All of us in favor of Arizona's law should make sure to support Arizona based businesses and Arizona tourism. It is unbelievable that during such hard economic times, anyone would purposely try to make a fellow state suffer economically any more than we all already have. I am a native Californian (moving back to CA in 2 months), raised in a very liberal family, and certainly not racist like some people in support of AZ's law have been accused of (my best friend is Mexican, fiancé is half Mexican). despite all this, I am team Arizona on this issue- something needs to be done and at least AZ is attempting to find a solution. If you're not a part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

As I've mentioned before, I don't even see what the controversy is all about. If I were to move to Mexico (or Guatamala or Nicaragua or whatever) I would want all my papers and affairs to be in order AND I would want to be able to speak Spanish (or whatever the native language) proficiently. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[jimj]

Personnaly I don't care if the queen of sheba shows up to support AZ. It doesn't have to be just "americans" whatever that really means. I'm sure there's french and english people who've seen what unbridled immigration has done to their countries and who'd sympathize.

[jimj]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

Even that can be negated: the USA and Canada have lots of oil shale and with gasoline prices staying N of $3 a gallon----------processing such shale is economically feasible.

Quite true but I'd bet those that have a vested interest in foriegn oil (money) wouldn't be getting paid as much or at all.

Ya gotta keep remembering the golden rule! He who has the gold makes the rules!!!

[Tyster]

Originally Posted by KarmaPhx

The last thing I want is to be associated with tea partiers!

Yeah! What you said! 'Cause the US Constitution stinks on ice, right... ? Right... ?

[Boompa]

Originally Posted by rxpwas

As I've mentioned before, I don't even see what the controversy is all about. If I were to move to Mexico (or Guatamala or Nicaragua or whatever) I would want all my papers and affairs to be in order AND I would want to be able to speak Spanish (or whatever the native language) proficiently. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Don't go to Lake Chapala then, lots of Americans, very little Spanish

Actually ou should skip most of Baja too

[Tama]

Originally Posted by jimj

They DO have a workable, self serving law. The problem is no law will work if it's not enforced.
As has been said many times, it'd take a one page addendum to fix the issue. Hit the employers HARD for hiring 'em and that'd be the end.

I am not sure about that. Educated specialists in fields we need are denied visas. The family unification aspect of the 1965 law has caused a shift to the unskilled rather than each individual being processed not only for his desire to enter the US but also as to where he would match the needs of the society already established here. That would be self-serving. Now the 1965 law is not geared that way. It is not just enforcing current law but having laws that make sense for our future needs.

And the question really has to be addressed whether we want to continue to encourage assimilation or not--and how the immigration process will relate to that decision.

[Arizona Mike]

Originally Posted by goodneighbor1234

The article stated that 2 million visitors (from Arizona) spent 800 million dollars in San Diego.

I doubt you'll be able to convince all 2 million to stay away. I doubt you can even make a difference that would cause anyone to notice.

San Diego and zonies were meant for each other.

Different summer, unemployment is still high, people are unsure what lies ahead the rest of the year, they're careful with their dollars. Not all two million will stay away but combined with the bad economy, stupid ideological decisions by local city councils can make things worse. Heck, it's not me who's saying that, it's the people in San Diego who work in tourism and actually know what they're talking about:

Still struggling from the prolonged economic downturn, San Diego’s visitor industry can ill afford to lose any of the 2 million Arizonans it counts on annually, said ConVis President Joe Terzi.

“We’re in a very tough environment already because of everything else going on, and we don’t need another negative impact to our industry,” Terzi said. “This affects all the hardworking men and women who count on tourism for their livelihoods, so we’re saying, don’t do something that hurts their livelihoods.”

Although the summer months typically are an economic bonanza for the San Diego visitor industry, the recession and continued high unemployment have eaten away at lodging revenue as hotels have steeply discounted rates to fill their rooms. The Convention & Visitors Bureau spent $9 million last year promoting the region for the spring and summer months and is dedicating $7 million toward that effort this year.