04-26-2010, 12:32 PM
Location: AZ
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burzum22
You're right, it's not going to do anything. So they catch 100,000 illegals every year. Big deal. For every one they catch,two more are making their way back across the border. The only person this law is good for is the human-smugglers. They will have a booming business.
As long as there are jobs, people will come.
04-26-2010, 01:19 PM
Location: Springfield MO
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Yes, it is America. Changing America. America has to do everything to protect its borders. If producing a certified copy of your birth certificate is an issue and you believe you will be subject to identity theft because of this, then I suggest you be more careful with your personal documents.
04-26-2010, 01:29 PM
Location: Southern Arizona
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DBCC
Yes, it is America. Changing America. America has to do everything to protect its borders. If producing a certified copy of your birth certificate is an issue and you believe you will be subject to identity theft because of this, then I suggest you be more careful with your personal documents.
Makes perfect sense to me, DBCC!
04-26-2010, 01:31 PM
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Bummer
Makes perfect sense to me, DBCC!
says the guy that probably never has to worry about being asked for proof of citizenship.
I guess hispanic american's concerns are trivial and we should just accept the fact that we will probably be profiled since we share the same ethnicity as 90% of the illegal immigrants in america.
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DBCC
Yes, it is America. Changing America. America has to do everything to protect its borders. If producing a certified copy of your birth certificate is an issue and you believe you will be subject to identity theft because of this, then I suggest you be more careful with your personal documents.
This is a horrible analogy. You're carded at a pub when you turn 21 because it is specifically a crime to be underage and have alcohol. I didn't realize it was a crime to be brown. Why should police have this right to "card" people because they suspect they are illegal? This is nazi germany.
04-26-2010, 01:34 PM
Location: In a city within a state where politicians come to get their PHDs in Corruption
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kdog
Chances are they would if the person didn't speak English. Mod Cut: Personal attitude .
And since when does an inability to speak english constitues a right for a police officer to check for someone's legal status? As far as I know this country has no official language.
04-26-2010, 01:37 PM
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tolovefromANFIELD
And since when does an inability to speak english constitues a right for a police officer to check for someone's legal status? As far as I know this country has no official language.
I guess he thinks everyone that speaks spanish in public should be checked for proof of citizenship.
04-26-2010, 02:06 PM
Location: Springfield MO
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No one has said it is a crime to be brown, green, black, red, purple or a little green man from outer space.
It sounds like you have more of an issue with it or are resentful.
Be proud of who you are and don't take such a negative attitude.
Do you feel the same way when approached by a Hispanic/Asian/Black/American Indian Officer?
Any alien/foreigner, having the right conditions, can be a citizen of the USA, providing they produce the paperwork required and meet the legal terms.
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Quote: "This is a horrible analogy. You're carded at a pub when you turn 21 because it is specifically a crime to be underage and have alcohol." UNQUOTE
It is also a crime, in case you hadn't noticed, to be ILLEGAL in the USA.
They have a job to protect you, and its not about color of skin, appearance, or how you pick your nose.
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Mod Cut: Personal attitude.
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04-26-2010, 02:06 PM
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burzum22
I guess he thinks everyone that speaks spanish in public should be checked for proof of citizenship.
I never said any such thing.
04-26-2010, 02:07 PM
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burzum22
I simply don't want to be treated as a second class citizen. Hmm.. how about some practical reasons. How about the fact that i don't want to carry my passport or birth certificate everywhere i go because that opens me up to identity theft?
Mod Cut: Personal attitude. The law currently states that if you are a green card holder or a legal immigrant with some type of visa you have to have your documents on you at all time proving you are allowed to be in the US. For you to say that citizens of the US like you don't want to but still leave it as a requirement that legal immigrants have to have their papers on them at all time is just sheer hypocrisy. It is not suppose to stop illegal immigration, it is meant to do something about illegal immigration, you really think our 21 drinking age stops under age people from drinking? Nope but its meant to put a damper on it.
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burzum22
You're carded at a pub when you turn 21 because it is specifically a crime to be underage and have alcohol. I didn't realize it was a crime to be brown. Why should police have this right to "card" people because they suspect they are illegal? This is nazi germany.
Guess how they decide whether or not to ask for your ID when it comes to alcohol? I didn't realize it was a crime to be someone who looks be under the age of 21. No one is saying it is a crime to be brown, state in the bill where it says it is a crime be brown. Why should police have the right to card people who they suspect do not have a license to drive a car? They have every right to determine whether or not a suspect has a license and proof of insurance, since they have that right they also have the right to see if the suspect is here legally, they already do it to green card holders and other legal visa holders.
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04-26-2010, 02:11 PM
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Noliving
Mod cut. The law currently states that if you are a green card holder or a legal immigrant with some type of visa you have to have your documents on you at all time proving you are allowed to be in the US. For you to say that citizens of the US like you don't want to but still leave it as a requirement that legal immigrants have to have their papers on them at all time is just sheer hypocrisy. It is not suppose to stop illegal immigration, it is meant to do something about illegal immigration, you really think our 21 drinking age stops under age people from drinking? Nope but its meant to put a damper on it.
What? i never said such a thing of leaving it for legal immigrants. I would rather this law not exist. SO how does this make me a hypocrite?
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Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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