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Old 05-27-2010, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I've never gone through a secondary (pulled off to the side) inspection either. The delay I referred to before is when a bottleneck occurs and vehicles are backed up. I sat through one incident for about an hour near the Buckman Springs checkpoint. Cars were lined up as far as I could see in both directions. The CHP eventually arrived and the bottleneck was soon cleared.

For those not familiar with BP checkpoints, the border that KarmaPhx refers to is the CA/AZ border, nothing to do with Mexico.
Yes the CA/AZ border, sorry I should have been more specific.

Most people don't realize when you drive the 8 HWY you're literally miles from the USA/Mexico border, which is why we have these checkpoints.

I remember when I was around 11-12 I was coming back from San Diego through the mountains, and there was a van driving behind us, they kept slowing down and then speeding back up, I was watching out the back window the whole time, and eventually I saw them pull off to the side, open the door, and about 10-15 people came out of the bushes and jumped into the van. This area is high traffic for illegals, which is why they need the checkpoints.
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Old 05-27-2010, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Cave Creek, AZ USA
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You're more like a few hundred yards from the border, not miles. There are parts of the sand dunes where the BP lets the ATV and quads go beyond the vehicle barrier and they sit there and watch them just in front of the fence. You can see this clearly from I-8. It's just a hundred yards or so south of the eastbound lanes.
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Verde Valley, Az
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To the Op,
You are way over thinking this trip. I live in Yuma and have made countless trips to both Phx and San Diego.

Other than being prepared with extra water and a cell phone in case of breakdown, the trip is nothing to write home about. You are as safe on this trip (maybe safer) as you are at home.

Checkpoints-
Westbound - at Buckman springs, Ca. No Az checkpoints westbound on I-8

Eastbound - at MP 74 in AZ, No CA checkpoints eastbound in Ca on i-8

Never been hasseled by BP, even when I travel with my students who are primarily Hispanic.

Az reststops- 3 between Yuma and Phx- The only one closed is Mohawk rest stop at aprox mp 60. The rest stop at dome valley near Yuma has no facilities, it is just a parking slab.
New Travel center in Dateland and Wellton, and of course, Yuma has plenty of services for the traveler.

Curly
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:53 PM
 
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Aside from Border Patrol checkpoints, there are some interesting things to see on the way if you look for them:

Check out the town of Felicity, just west of Yuma. I first became interested in this place when I noticed some pyramids and a spiral staircase leading to nowhere visible just off the I-10. The town of Felicity is the Official Center of the World (as recognized by the Institut Geographique National of France.) You can enter the pyramid, stand on the plaque inside, and receive a certificate from the Mayor. There is also a USMC Korean War Memorial, an unusual church, and the World Commemorative Center:

Official Center of the World, Felicity, California

A little further west of Felicity, you can also visit the desert planet of Tattooine from the Star Wars movies, parts of which were filmed in Buttercup Valley in the Imperial Sand Dunes. Don't go offroad but it's pretty country to look at if you like desert ecology:

http://www.starwarslocations.com/art...07010921303224

West of lovely El Centro as you enter the mountains, check out Desert View Tower, a funky old stone look-out tower with an attached Boulder Park that's fun to let the kids run around in and check out the Depression-era stone carvings:

Desert View Tower, Jacumba, California

As a bonus, there is a Gravity Hill on the road leading to the tower where your car appears to roll uphill:

Jacumba, CA - Gravity Hill

There is another Gravity Hill less than a mile away in Ocotillo:

Ocotillo, CA - Gravity Ramp

Further west in Alpine are the remains of an old Dinosaur Park:

Alpine, CA - Dinosaur Land Remains

Also in Alpine is Summers Past Farm that is a small working farm with attached shops that sell herbal stuff, fancy soaps, potpourri, etc., and has attached gardens and walkways and animals to pet (including some really fat cats that lounge around that my daughter loves to pet), a little garden maze, fields to play in, a little covered cafe, plants for sale, play areas for kids, etc. Not a bad place to stop and grab an herbal ice tea and let the kids unwind. My wife loves the place. On June 5 they have a Fairy Festival that is a big hit with little girls:

Summers Past Farms ::: herbal gardens, gifts, nursery and classes ::: Flinn Springs, California 92021

The Indian-owned Viejas Outlet Center (with attached casino) near Alpine has the usual outlet stores but has a really cool huge dancing waters fountain that kids can play in to cool off after a long desert drive to San Diego. Have the kids bring a swimsuit and dry clothes so they won't be sitting in wet suits the rest of the way (currently it's only open on weekends, but with summer will probably be open every day):

Viejas Outlet Center


Sadly, the Hot Dog Hall of Fame in El Cajon is closed but may re-open soon.

- Arizona Mike, still wandering the backroads of America.
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Cave Creek, AZ USA
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West of lovely El Centro
Ha! You're a real comedian
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:57 AM
 
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Thank You AZ mike.. I am going to add your comments to my notes... Great explaination...
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Old 05-28-2010, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Arizona, The American Southwest
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Guys,
I am driving to San diego from AZ(gilbert) this summer(mid june). How is the drive? and sceanic views while driving to san diego? Is the drive safe? I am planning to leave between 8-9 am. How`s the wheather is san diego?
I heard that it will be super hot and I need to take a lot of water with me. Any ideas?
As many mentioned, Interstate 8 is the shortest way to San Diego, and there are a number of scenic views. The advantage of driving on I-8 is less traffic. The longer way, if you have extra time, is to take Interstate 10 west to Los Angeles, then turn south on either the Pacific Coast Highway, or the San Diego Freeway (The 405), just east of Los Angeles International Airport. It might take you an extra day to drive to San Diego, but the coastal scenry is nice.

You can also avoid going through LA and its heavy freeway traffic by turning south on I-15 through Riverside, then taking another freeway west around Temecula, that takes you to the PCH or the 405.

Weather in San Diego is generally cooler, upper 70s to upper 80s as you get close to the coast, but of course, as you go further inland about 20-30 miles, it warms up about 10 to 15 degrees.
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Old 05-28-2010, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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From what I understand, the checkpoints are mobile, every year I go they are in different places, they can just pack up and set up somewhere else.
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Old 05-29-2010, 05:18 PM
 
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I am old enough to remember when they would stop you at the CA border and check for fruit. Of course, AZ did the same. Now, it is the Border Patrol.
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Old 05-29-2010, 05:56 PM
 
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I am old enough to remember when they would stop you at the CA border and check for fruit. Of course, AZ did the same. Now, it is the Border Patrol.
I was thinking about that the other day. Doesn't that seem quaint now? Remember the Great Medfly Scare?
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