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Old 07-04-2013, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Little Rock AR USA
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Laundry day in the spring of '51 in the IX or X Corps. I don't remember which because we were on the move most of the time moving from the west coast to the east coast. Lots of action in this little valley several days before this photo. We were a heavy artillery battery "bas**rd" outfit sent where ever we were needed
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Old 07-08-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Little Rock AR USA
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The photo shows one of our guns and one of the mountain roads on the east coast we drove on. These mountains are now very popular ski resorts. You can see where the combat engineers have repaired the road after it was blown up. On another trip on a similar road I was driving the gun back to the rear for repair and came to a narrow place in the road that had not been completely repaired. The road was so narrow my Gun Sergeant, who was with me, got down to act as "ground guide". I was slowly inching along with his guidance when all at once he looked shocked and signaled for me to speed up and started running backwards continuing to signal for me to speed up. Shortly he signaled for me to stop and get out of the gun. When I got to him he said for us to go look at something and walked behind the gun. The side of the road had caved off and he said it was caving from under my outside track and when I speeded up I "out ran" the caving, then most of the road caved off. I could almost write a book on that trip because so many "interesting" things happened.
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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I have read this entire thread from the very first posting , and not ONE person has mentioned that 31 OTHER countries sent troops to Korea.

The USA did NOT fight alone in Korea, not by a long shot.

It was a United Nations effort, and that means that, although the USA did have the majority of the manpower, others were also there, who fought just as hard, and died just as well.

Being proud is great, BUT you should be willing to acknowledge the sacrifice of other nations, as well.

Canada sent a full armoured brigade , and three infantry brigades, totaling 30,000 men, and 12 RCAF fighter squadrons, with F86 sabre jets, and six RCN ships to patrol the North Korean coast line. Not a small contribution, for a country that only five years before, in WW2 had lost sixty thousand dead, and 125,000 wounded. As a matter of fact, 70 percent of the Canadians who served in Korea were WW 2 veterans, who VOLUNTEERED , again, to fight. Canada has never had a draft system, unlike the USA.

And finally, I will mention the 2nd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, who received a Presidential Unit Citation, for their stubborn defence at Kap Yong, that allowed a retreating USMC battalion to get away to the rear. Look it up.

Jim B

Toronto.
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:25 PM
 
Location: United States of America
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Jim B., don't think for a minute that those other countries have been forgotten. They have not. This thread is in the Arkansas section and Arkansas is in the United States. Look it up.
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Old 07-08-2013, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Little Rock AR USA
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I have read this entire thread from the very first posting , and not ONE person has mentioned that 31 OTHER countries sent troops to Korea.

The USA did NOT fight alone in Korea, not by a long shot.

It was a United Nations effort, and that means that, although the USA did have the majority of the manpower, others were also there, who fought just as hard, and died just as well.

Being proud is great, BUT you should be willing to acknowledge the sacrifice of other nations, as well.

Canada sent a full armoured brigade , and three infantry brigades, totaling 30,000 men, and 12 RCAF fighter squadrons, with F86 sabre jets, and six RCN ships to patrol the North Korean coast line. Not a small contribution, for a country that only five years before, in WW2 had lost sixty thousand dead, and 125,000 wounded. As a matter of fact, 70 percent of the Canadians who served in Korea were WW 2 veterans, who VOLUNTEERED , again, to fight. Canada has never had a draft system, unlike the USA.

And finally, I will mention the 2nd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, who received a Presidential Unit Citation, for their stubborn defence at Kap Yong, that allowed a retreating USMC battalion to get away to the rear. Look it up.

Jim B

Toronto.
Yes, yes, yes, Jim. It was not intended to slight the other 31 Nations, but this Thread is about Arkansas' involvement in the war, not the total war effort. As we were moved all over the country to provide support with our heavy artillery to the various troops, we supported the Canadians, British, Turks, US Marines, and US 2nd ID. I don't remember the details but the British were almost wiped out in I Corps in the early days of the war because they were told to stop the North Koreans "here" at all costs. And they did stop them, but at a very high cost in loss of soldiers.

I'm so sorry if I offended you and you felt this Thread was ignoring all others involved in the war.
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Slim:

Message received. I'll let you get on with your conversation here.

A final question .....did you know that the 2nd PPCLI won a US Presidential Unit citation, in Korea ? Most Americans don't know that fact. Or that Canadian RCAF pilots flew in USAF squadrons, in Korea ?

Jim B

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Old 07-09-2013, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Little Rock AR USA
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Slim:

Message received. I'll let you get on with your conversation here.

A final question .....did you know that the 2nd PPCLI won a US Presidential Unit citation, in Korea ? Most Americans don't know that fact. Or that Canadian RCAF pilots flew in USAF squadrons, in Korea ?

Jim B

Toronto.
Jim, I fully understand your feelings when you thought I was slighting the other nations involved in the war. I have a "screaming fit" when I see a list or hear comments that goes from WW II to Vietnam and skips over Korea.

I knew about the RCAF pilots but didn't about the 2nd PPCLI. I now wonder if that was the unit I was referring to in my earlier Post. Now I gotta dig out my maps and check. Take care, and thanks for reading this Thread. Slim
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Old 07-09-2013, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Little Rock AR USA
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Hey Jim, I looked it up, I was there! But this isn't the action I wrote about earlier. We (all the forces) were moving into the Iron Triangle when the Chinese hit early one morning. I can close my eyes and still see the MG tracers advancing down the mountain side toward us. We had supported the push, then supported the fall-back. Today's target would be yesterday's position. Long, long story short; Since we were a bas**rd battalion, we belonged to everybody, but nobody. We were forgotten and abandoned at Uijongbu. We got out but some of our neighbors didn't. Our air observers told us that our dust had barely settled when the Chinese moved into our old position.

I'm sorry. When I started this Thread my objective was only to show how Arkansas was involved in the war and bring it out of the "forgotten" status again. I had not planned to go into these details.

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Old 07-10-2013, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
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Slim :

NO apologies needed......Its your thread after all.

I served in the Canadian Forces for 30 years, retiring in 1996, at what would be in the US system an E8.

In our rank system a Chief Warrant Officer first class. During the course of my career, at my own expense, I managed to achieve a Master's in Canadian military history. I was way over qualified, for my military trade , as a military Police investigator, or so my career manager told me ( grin ) .

Jim B.

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Old 07-10-2013, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Little Rock AR USA
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Slim :

NO apologies needed......Its your thread after all.

I served in the Canadian Forces for 30 years, retiring in 1996, at what would be in the US system an E8.

In our rank system a Chief Warrant Officer first class. During the course of my career, at my own expense, I managed to achieve a Master's in Canadian military history. I was way over qualified, for my military trade , as a military Police investigator, or so my career manager told me ( grin ) .

Jim B.

Toronto.
Way to go! Good for you!
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