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Old 08-18-2017, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Alright. Difference in perspective I guess. Not old, but I'd rather have peace withoutB a POA or a neighbor right next to me by the time I get to that age.
the POA, yes they exist and can be both good and bad, but you would be surprised at how far apart house can be from one another in both BV and HSV. We have no houses behind us, both side there are 2 tree lined lots and across the street is all trees, no houses for 2 blocks. It is this way in most of BV or much of it anyway. I have a feeling you have never even driven though the community or through HSV. Again, you have no idea how you are going to feel as you get closer to retirement age.
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Ozark Mountains Arkansas
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Some people just prefer one or the other. I live on 40 acres and most of the people in this area have lots of land and NO neighbors. Many of them are older, the two people who live on the same ridge as me are 65 and 70 and own 40-100 acres. It is more work but for some it's worth it.

I could definitely see the benefit of living in a place like Bella Vista also, especially in older age. It's pretty and well kept with low crime.

It's all about preference.
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Old 08-18-2017, 05:43 PM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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Come back and talk to us when you get old.
Why? Is my opinion not welcome?
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Old 08-18-2017, 06:23 PM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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the POA, yes they exist and can be both good and bad, but you would be surprised at how far apart house can be from one another in both BV and HSV. We have no houses behind us, both side there are 2 tree lined lots and across the street is all trees, no houses for 2 blocks. It is this way in most of BV or much of it anyway. I have a feeling you have never even driven though the community or through HSV. Again, you have no idea how you are going to feel as you get closer to retirement age.
Been to Bella Vista quite a few times actually. And all over NWA. I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on it. If you have to be a certain age to express a viewpoint on a neighborhood, please let me know. I was just surprised at the disproportionately high interest level in these 2 areas compared to the rest of the state.

Maybe this board is just a lot "older" than me. Most of the "pro's" for these 2 communities in this thread can be experienced in a lot of the rural parts of the state. Unless you're looking for a ton of golfing options, living on the outskirts of town/county provide most of the same standards of living. I would welcome people outside the state looking to retire in AR to look at other towns off the beaten path when you get here. Drive down 71 or AR Hwy 7 or out on AR Hwy 74 and you can find isolated lots, just as many trees, and not everyone is in a trailer.

Again, I know I'm young so it's easy to be skeptical of what I think. Even you had to be reminded where Johnson was located in the Johnson development thread, so just remember age doesn't mean everything
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Old 08-18-2017, 08:20 PM
 
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Why? Is my opinion not welcome?
No. It's just that we were discussing retirement villages and you were saying, "I don't understand why...." and I'm just sayin' you may understand why when you get old.
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Old 08-19-2017, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Been to Bella Vista quite a few times actually. And all over NWA. I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on it. If you have to be a certain age to express a viewpoint on a neighborhood, please let me know. I was just surprised at the disproportionately high interest level in these 2 areas compared to the rest of the state.

Maybe this board is just a lot "older" than me. Most of the "pro's" for these 2 communities in this thread can be experienced in a lot of the rural parts of the state. Unless you're looking for a ton of golfing options, living on the outskirts of town/county provide most of the same standards of living. I would welcome people outside the state looking to retire in AR to look at other towns off the beaten path when you get here. Drive down 71 or AR Hwy 7 or out on AR Hwy 74 and you can find isolated lots, just as many trees, and not everyone is in a trailer.

Again, I know I'm young so it's easy to be skeptical of what I think. Even you had to be reminded where Johnson was located in the Johnson development thread, so just remember age doesn't mean everything
wow personal insults and all. I am giving my view and you are giving yours, but the difference, I see both sides. Our granddaughter and husband lived in West Fork when they were first married but decided to move to a more family friendly atmosphere when they decided to have children. Our other granddauther and husband live in Bella Vista, by choice. They wanted a family friendly community for their 3 little girls. BV and I think HSV are not all retired people. I think HSV probably % wise has a few more retired.

As for being skeptical, that certainly isn't me. I pay attention to what my grandkids think and say all the time and I admire their views on most things. Right now our POA has a committee forming to study the changing demographics of the community. There is more to most small towns here than just Golf. I think your attitude shows how little you do know about life outside of your world.

Just remember, what works for one doesn't work for another and try to keep an open mind.

BTW: what do you mean about when you mention many trees, isolated lots and not everyone living in trailers? Wow, that is a pretty strong comment wouldn't you say?
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Old 08-19-2017, 11:46 AM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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I never insulted you. Don't say things that aren't true.
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Old 08-19-2017, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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wow personal insults and all. I am giving my view and you are giving yours, but the difference, I see both sides. Our granddaughter and husband lived in West Fork when they were first married but decided to move to a more family friendly atmosphere when they decided to have children. Our other granddauther and husband live in Bella Vista, by choice. They wanted a family friendly community for their 3 little girls. BV and I think HSV are not all retired people. I think HSV probably % wise has a few more retired.

As for being skeptical, that certainly isn't me. I pay attention to what my grandkids think and say all the time and I admire their views on most things. Right now our POA has a committee forming to study the changing demographics of the community. There is more to most small towns here than just Golf. I think your attitude shows how little you do know about life outside of your world.

Just remember, what works for one doesn't work for another and try to keep an open mind.

BTW: what do you mean about when you mention many trees, isolated lots and not everyone living in trailers? Wow, that is a pretty strong comment wouldn't you say?
you may want to answer or explain some of your comments, but regardless, this is a conversation that is going nowhere fast. You have your ideas and opinions, I have mine. I think I will just go and watch my Dodgers on TV and look forward to the Hogs season starting in 2 weeks.
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Old 08-19-2017, 04:41 PM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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you may want to answer or explain some of your comments, but regardless, this is a conversation that is going nowhere fast. You have your ideas and opinions, I have mine. I think I will just go and watch my Dodgers on TV and look forward to the Hogs season starting in 2 weeks.
I think my comment about trailers was misunderstood. I don't have anything against trailers. It was a response to the comment someone made about how sometimes unsightly trailers are place up against your property if you don't have a POA for protection. I understand that concern.

Luckily there are lots of great homes and lots out there.

I think you're right that we should probably take a break from this topic and let things cool off. It's easy for misunderstandings when people text or are just reading words on a screen (without the context that you get in a real face to face conversation). I apologize if you feel I was insulting anyone personally because that wasn't the intent.
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Are you old?

Old people get tired of maintaining "a bit of land" (even just the sort-of large yard we have now is getting to be a pain). They get tired of maintaining big houses, or older houses (like mine), etc. They get tired of the neighbors' kids doing all sorts of things to annoy them, of people in the neighborhood (and there is always at least one) letting their homes go to the dogs, of people letting their dogs run all over the place and bark their heads off, of teenagers roaring down the streets with loud pipes....I could go on and on. Yes, I am that person. Get off my lawn!

I like being in the country also, but I've noticed that unless you can afford to have a pretty large acreage you run the risk of having someone come move their ratty trailer right up next to you and start making meth or breeding pitt bulls or putting their car up on blocks and pulling the engine out of it and hanging it from a tree (this happened in one of my neighbors' yards -- what the heck??) If you live in timber country you run the risk of having your gorgeous, shady country road suddenly ripped from you by loggers, changing the landscape for miles around you. Again, I could go on and on.

In Hot Springs Village (never been to Bella Vista) there are beautiful large trees and rocks everywhere, rolling hills, the speed limit is 45, the roads are well-maintained, the homes, even the smaller ones, are maintained (or the POA will get you), there are beautiful golf courses, lakes, creeks, views, walking/biking trails galore, etc. And it's quiet....oh, so quiet. My daughter and I sat in a rented condo one night in HSV and marveled at the quiet. (we live in town, where we hear a lot of traffic, and also we live about a block from a railroad track!)

So, people can have good reasons for wanting to live in a retirement community. I really regret that both BV and HSV are "welcoming" younger families with children. I like children, but I no longer want to live with them! I need a quiet, peaceful, clean home to go to when I get enough of them. lol
this was my point when I did post last summer. You are so right; most of us, after about age 70 do not have the get up and go to live in the country nor do we choose to be so far away from from doctors shopping,etc. For those who like the country living, it is a wonderful way to seek peace and quiet. For those of us who want a little of both communities like HSV and BV are perfect.

When the poster you are responding to decided to take on the planned communities. he obviously was not aware of the number of articles rating BV and HSV as 2 of the best regions for retirees.
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