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Old 08-27-2017, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Arkansas is a great state, with a lot of natural beauty, nice climate and some of the friendliest people I've ever met. So I'm just curious? What is it about Fayetteville you don't like? Other than it not being progressive enough, and just so you know I'm a pretty liberal gay man, who doesn't find Fayetteville regressive.
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Old 08-27-2017, 07:25 AM
 
Location: OK
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Hmmm, and what is your definition of "progressive"?
I think a good example would be a state where a raped woman doesn't need to ask her rapist's permission to have an abortion.
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Old 08-27-2017, 07:27 AM
 
Location: OK
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Arkansas is a great state, with a lot of natural beauty, nice climate and some of the friendliest people I've ever met. So I'm just curious? What is it about Fayetteville you don't like? Other than it not being progressive enough, and just so you know I'm a pretty liberal gay man, who doesn't find Fayetteville regressive.
Fayetteville is probably one of the more progressive towns in AR
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Old 08-27-2017, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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it has wonderful motorcycle roads..
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Old 08-27-2017, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Boydton, VA
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"Hmmm, and what is your definition of "progressive"?".....everyone probably has their own interpretation of "progressive", and mine would be the opposite of conservative.....which by any definition, Arkansas is.

LGBT in AR and expecting respect/rights.... you should probably seek it elsewhere.

Most conservative states in Congress, AR up near the top.

One of the three poorest states. A state will not improve their ranking in this category without spending money. Spending means change and is not something conservatives (by definition) willingly embrace. As shown below, there looks to be multiple major spending opportunities.

AR is ranked 50th (last) out of the 50 states in Healthcare, 39th in education, 48th in crime, 45th in infrastructure, 47th in opportunity, 39th in economy, 48th in gender equality, 41st in employment.

Any one of the above categories could be enough to cause an individual to seek greener pastures elsewhere, but taken in it's entirety, it would cause me to wonder just how progressive the residents (state wide) really are....after all, it is they who vote conservatives into office.

As stated above, AR is a state of great natural beauty, loaded with nice people, a moderate climate....however progressive is not something that would pop into my mind when touting the many attributes of AR.

As a side note, after migrating to AR from liberal CA in the mid 70's, I somewhat reluctantly migrated out in the early 80's for several reasons, employment opportunities, education for my kids, and the search for a more liberal location that better suited our lifestyle. You see, for those not around the Ozarks in the 70's, it was a very clannish environment, extremely religious (Baptist), extremely racially bigoted, of which we were none....in a nutshell, we just didn't fit in.

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Gemstone1

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Old 08-27-2017, 08:04 AM
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I was wondering has anyone else moved out of Arkansas.
I know of a LOT of people who grew up in Arkansas left and never went back. Many of them religious conservatives, if that matters. Historically, jobs have never been great in Arkansas, save for a few areas. Obviously jobs are the primary reason people move somewhere.
The northwest phenomenon is a relatively new thing.
Modern day "progressive" places probably have the most hate and intolerance since Jim Crow, but as long as a person is hating with the majority of locals, then they'll experience tolerance. Funny how conservative places are far more tolerant now than used to be and progressives are far far worse.
Yay America.
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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Arkansas is a great state, with a lot of natural beauty, nice climate and some of the friendliest people I've ever met. So I'm just curious? What is it about Fayetteville you don't like? Other than it not being progressive enough, and just so you know I'm a pretty liberal gay man, who doesn't find Fayetteville regressive.
I don't like how Fayetteville isn't diverse enough or it's not accustomed to LGBT people. I'm a black pansexual male who is thankful to live in Ann Arbor, MI.
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:35 AM
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Location: Wonderland
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Well, go on wid cho bad seff.

My family is from Arkansas though I never have lived there personally. When my parents moved back from Texas to Hot Springs, I considered moving there and went to check it out several times, met with a realtor, etc. I decided against it in the long run but it wasn't because of political affiliation - it was because the whole economy of Arkansas seems to reward poverty and punish prosperity. No thanks.
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Old 08-27-2017, 08:38 PM
 
Location: The Natural State
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"Hmmm, and what is your definition of "progressive"?".....everyone probably has their own interpretation of "progressive", and mine would be the opposite of conservative.....which by any definition, Arkansas is.

LGBT in AR and expecting respect/rights.... you should probably seek it elsewhere.

Most conservative states in Congress, AR up near the top.

One of the three poorest states. A state will not improve their ranking in this category without spending money. Spending means change and is not something conservatives (by definition) willingly embrace. As shown below, there looks to be multiple major spending opportunities.

AR is ranked 50th (last) out of the 50 states in Healthcare, 39th in education, 48th in crime, 45th in infrastructure, 47th in opportunity, 39th in economy, 48th in gender equality, 41st in employment.

Any one of the above categories could be enough to cause an individual to seek greener pastures elsewhere, but taken in it's entirety, it would cause me to wonder just how progressive the residents (state wide) really are....after all, it is they who vote conservatives into office.

As stated above, AR is a state of great natural beauty, loaded with nice people, a moderate climate....however progressive is not something that would pop into my mind when touting the many attributes of AR.

As a side note, after migrating to AR from liberal CA in the mid 70's, I somewhat reluctantly migrated out in the early 80's for several reasons, employment opportunities, education for my kids, and the search for a more liberal location that better suited our lifestyle. You see, for those not around the Ozarks in the 70's, it was a very clannish environment, extremely religious (Baptist), extremely racially bigoted, of which we were none....in a nutshell, we just didn't fit in.

Regards
Gemstone1

Hey Gemstone, you left out that we have a full slate of Republican Congressmen and state capitol "leaders"
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Old 08-27-2017, 10:19 PM
 
Location: NW Oregon
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OP's basic idea: "Let's get together and bash a state we no longer live in because the majority of that states population doesn't agree with our personal worldview and/or lifestyle."

Does every square inch of the United States have to agree with progressive/liberal values before your side is happy?
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