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Old 04-26-2008, 12:52 PM
 
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This is probably not a revelation, but I'm still floating from turkey season and it just hit me the other day.

I ended up in a town, not far from where I live, waiting on an unexpected auto repair.

Now I know the area well, do commerce in it frequently. There were about 5 different newspapers for the day, laying around the waiting area, so I grabbed one from a local village.

I was shocked. I mean really flabbergasted.

I get newspapers from around the area, but they tend to be very centralized. I realized how centralized when I started reading in this paper about the different crime occurences, scandals, drugs, infighting...

That just doesn't occur in the towns that I get my papers from, and they don't report it.

I realized that although I only lived 30 minutes from this place I'm reading about, I never considered, or knew about this kind of tumult.

My thought was about people who are moving into a new area. The place where this paper was from is considered very desireable, and has mostly persons from other states that live in it.

So, I would really advise all to get newspapers from the area they're looking at. They're not expensive, most small town papers, published once a week, run around $20 or so a year to subscribe to.

The biggest things I'm used to seeing in the papers are DUI's and domestic fights, with a few "public intoxication" violations thrown in.

A small investment for a large return
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Old 04-26-2008, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Horseshoe Bend, Arkansas
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Default Thanks for the tip...

My wife and I did just that. We subscribed to the town paper and a larger paper out of Salem. We also watched this message board and combed thru the archives for details for about a year. The best thing we found was to just go to the area and stay a while, talk to people, realtors, business owners, restraunt waitresses and grab a local or two and just have a chat with them. One thing that works very well is to simply "get lost" on a back street in town and ask for info/directions and strike up a conversation with someone harmless looking.

The crime we found in the area of AR we planned on moving to didnt seem like much to us considering the population and the frequency we noticed. For the North central area of AR i noticed more DUI's, public intoxications, disorderlies than anything hardcore. But even that wasn't being done very frequent. I just spoke with a good friend of mine from the city Of Waukesha, WI who is a LEO there and in Milwaukee. he sat down and told of the recent crime that they have there. The latest craze for them is the stolen scrap metal business. People are stealing anything not bolted down, and then things that are!.....Aluminum siding is being stripped from houses as far up as one can reach. New job sites are having the wiring stripped before inspectors can come in , approve the work, and close up the walls. Utility companies are having the ground wires on utility poles cut as high up as one can reach for miles of city blocks.....for the copper. Aluminum storm windows, aluminum car rims, entire dumpsters!...he said that last week an entire wrecking ball was stolen from a demolition site. (500 pound ball)!! These are all additional troubles that are piled on top of the drug, burglary, shootings, and "regular" stuff that goes on there. I feel the North Central AR region is pretty safe compared to the lifestyle my LEO friend lives in.

Coming from the severely "wet" state of WI, i do wonder why the Izard county region wants to go wet.....and risk so much by bringing alcohol troubles into the county. it is puzzling to me why the elders of the area are putting effort for "wetness" instead of something/anything that could really improve the area with the same amount of effort.
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Old 04-26-2008, 03:19 PM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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Thank is exactly what I did when we were planning a move from Idaho. Most places will send you a sample newspaper, or they did 31 years ago when we were searching.
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Old 04-26-2008, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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We did the same thing when we decided to re-locate to the ABQ area. Only thing, it still didn't seem to tell us the bad or we closed our eyes to what it would be like. Whatever, we hope our move to NWA will be all we are hoping for. I am sure it will be.

Nita
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Old 04-27-2008, 07:17 AM
 
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Coming from the severely "wet" state of WI, i do wonder why the Izard county region wants to go wet.....and risk so much by bringing alcohol troubles into the county. it is puzzling to me why the elders of the area are putting effort for "wetness" instead of something/anything that could really improve the area with the same amount of effort.
Well, here's the reasoning that I've seen from the brou-ha floating around here, Horseshoe.

The spear headers of this movement has research that shows that alcohol related driving mishaps are actually higher in dry countys.

The tax revenue is curently going to other counties/states.

The folks that are pushing the movement are mostly non-natives, and although there really are a number of "clubs" around where one can drink, package is not available.

I do have to admit that being a dry county slows absolutely nobody down.

Cops are keen on DUI's around here, and Arkansas has this really vague "public intoxication" statute that pretty much says if you have taken a drink, and you are in public view, you're publicly intoxicated. I believe that is reserved in actual application for ne'er-do-wells that get a little too frisky.

I don't see any changes coming if Izard and/or Sharp go wet, other than somebody's going to be making money off it, and Baxter County and Thayer, MO are going to lose some customers.
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:21 AM
 
Location: In my playhouse.
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If someone wants something to drink they will drive where ever they need to purchase their desired drink. The counties feel that they could make some money by selling locally and save people from driving and drinking.

Another reason I have heard is that the restaurants suffer from not being able to serve drinks with meals. Studies have shown that people will drive to another town where they can have a drink with their meal.

After living in a dry county for thirty plus years, I think they may as well "go wet" it won't make people start drinking! Would you rather your neighbor be having a cocktail or doing meth? There are far greater dangers to society already in our towns that need attention.

To bring my post back on topic - I understand your surprise at what you read in local papers. I love Arkansas and have had the pleasure of traveling to all parts of this wonderful state but there are towns I am very glad I do not live in or near!
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Dry versus wet: we lived in a dry city when still in Texas, but the surrounding cities served and sold booze, from wine and beer to hard liquor. Of course the few miles to the cities that sold alcohol, not only did we buy our booze we did our grocery shopping there as well while we out for the afternoon. Who reaped the rewards from all that tax revenue? It certainly wasn't the city we resided in. Since then our old town has gone wet.

We have already been looking at where to shop when we re-locate to BV and it will be MO most likely. Just across the line we can buy wonderful wine at low prices, an occassional lotery ticket which we do only a few times a year and we may do some grocery shopping as well.

As has been said, anyone who wants to drink will find an easy way to do so. Keeping counties dry will not help. The is true with keeping casinos out of states as well. Yes, we all know too many people spend their hard earned money gambling, many almost the whole social security check, but again, with casinos so many places today, most are within an hour from one, why not let our own state collect some of the taxes.

Just my thoughts, I know not everyone shares them.

Nita
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Old 04-28-2008, 01:48 AM
 
Location: The Great State of Arkansas
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MODERATOR: Back to newspapers, please...I've been out, several of the threads have really gone off topic - makes it hard for people to search for the info they need - thanks to all of you!
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