[Stormcrow73]

Originally Posted by RogMar

Perhaps what could be mistaken for a volcanic crater is a sink hole.

They're all around on the hill where I live and they're quite large. I have one near my road that if it was on top would most certainly resemble a volcanic top.

From what I understand, caverns run through these hills *all over*, winding like a snake up & down. Over time, some of the caverns collapse, and that causes the sink hole.

I do hope someone from the Salem area can answer the OP's question.

I was thinking sinkhole too. I've seen some huge ones and after a few thousand years the edges of one could easily get rolled over and be a bit "gentle." Another possibility, (highly unlikely but possible) would be a meteor impact site. I know 14 meteors of varying sizes have been found in AR.

I'd still say it's a sinkhole though even having never seen it just based on how common they are in the Ozarks.

[SwinerBock]

Not being familiar with Salem at all, I have no idea. I do know that South Arkansas has its own "crater" called the Norphlet Crater (near El Dorado). It was created when a natural gas well exploded back in 1922.

[Stormcrow73]

Hey Bill

Seeing as I'm a sucker for stuff like this, I did some looking around on google maps satellite view. Pretty sure I found your mountain. It matches your location description perfectly and sure enough there's a depression just beside the pinnacle. The mountain is called Wallace Knob:

salem, ar - Google Maps

If you switch to terrain view on that link, you can see that the lower edge of the depression is still pretty far above the road surface elevation even though it appears on the satellite view to open out into a flat field.

Still doesn't really help us figure out what caused it though!

[RogMar]

Good catch, Stormcow.

I tried to click ya on that one, but I just clicked ya on another one recently, and it says I gotta "spread some reputation around" 'fore I can click ya again............

Let's just say ya got a "virtual" one.

[billr]

Stormcrow73,

I believe that you did find it. From looking at the location of Wallace Knob it appears to be in the right location of where I lived and it certainly shows a crater.

Kind of up and to the right of the knob there is a a road sign noting US 62. Just to the right of that sign is a small round pond. The highway makes a slight turn to the left at this point also. If memory serves me right the house we lived in at that time would have been located about 200 feet NW of that pond. It appears that the old house is no longer there but after almost 60 years that is not too surprising.

I appreciate you finding the map of it. I had tried to locate it by map before but I think my mistake was I forgot to look in the terrain mode.

Also to all those others who posted to this thread, I thank you and each one was helpful in one way or another.

When we lived there I use to walk from there into downtown a lot. In fact my dog would walk with me and funny thing is he would always walk between me and the traffic. Did that consistently without fail. He was in even more ways a very smart dog.

That area as well as the community of Lakeview near Bull Shoals gave me a bunch of cherished memories from back mid century.

I have always loved the northern Arkansas and the wife and I were planning to relocate someplace there. We were looking at the area around from Hardy to Mountain Home. However with the housing market situation, it is almost impossible to sell our place here. We have to sell before we can make any move.

Will just have to wait and see what develops.

Again thanks to everyone.

Peace
BillR

[Gailla Moser]

RogMar,

Do you live in Melbourne?

[RogMar]

Originally Posted by Gailla Moser

RogMar,

Do you live in Melbourne?

Close to it, Gailla.

I've got a farm east of there out in the sticks. Melbourne and Ash flat are my main "go to's".

[Gailla Moser]

Dear RogMar,

Oh you are so lucky really! My parent bought a farm in Salem, Arkansas and it was beautiful. The Red Bud and Dog Wood trees were gorgeous. My mother planted iris's of all colors along the back fence of the house. They purchased the house in either 1959 or 1960 and we only lived there 2 years because my parents could not make a living there. I remember it though. We rode horses, and went swimming in the ponds in the evenings. I was only 4 years old when we moved there and we moved when I was 6. We also met some colorful people when we lived there. Most were related to my father a Moser in some way or another. The thing I remember and loved the most about living there was all of the animals.

We also lived in Melbourne from 1964 until 1966 where my father's family still owned a little bit of land and it had a huge sink hole on it. But even still I loved living in Melbourne. The people in Arkansas are so friendly and warm. I really missed that after moving to Kansas City in 1966. Needless to say I was not happy when we moved but I have been here ever since.

I really would like to move back but I am concerned about making it financially there. Im afraid because well you know my parents didn't make it twice. Can you tell me what are the hospitals like in the area? Do they employ Social Workers? I know I want to retire there but I have a few years yet, at least 16 anyway before retiring.

How did you make it financially? Did you have a profession you worked along with your farm? I am always curious about how people survive in Arkansas. I know they do.

When my parent lived in Melbourne in the 60's they operated a cleaning shop which Melbourne did not support to much in 1964. Just Mr. Miller. Well not just Mr. Miller but almost. Not many folks in Melbourne got their pants pressed by the Dry Cleaner in 1964. Ha!

Well I enjoy reading your posts and will look forward to reading them again.

Gailla

[RogMar]

Originally Posted by Gailla Moser

Dear RogMar,

Oh you are so lucky really! My parent bought a farm in Salem, Arkansas and it was beautiful. The Red Bud and Dog Wood trees were gorgeous. My mother planted iris's of all colors along the back fence of the house. They purchased the house in either 1959 or 1960 and we only lived there 2 years because my parents could not make a living there. I remember it though. We rode horses, and went swimming in the ponds in the evenings. I was only 4 years old when we moved there and we moved when I was 6. We also met some colorful people when we lived there. Most were related to my father a Moser in some way or another. The thing I remember and loved the most about living there was all of the animals.

We also lived in Melbourne from 1964 until 1966 where my father's family still owned a little bit of land and it had a huge sink hole on it. But even still I loved living in Melbourne. The people in Arkansas are so friendly and warm. I really missed that after moving to Kansas City in 1966. Needless to say I was not happy when we moved but I have been here ever since.

I really would like to move back but I am concerned about making it financially there. Im afraid because well you know my parents didn't make it twice. Can you tell me what are the hospitals like in the area? Do they employ Social Workers? I know I want to retire there but I have a few years yet, at least 16 anyway before retiring.

How did you make it financially? Did you have a profession you worked along with your farm? I am always curious about how people survive in Arkansas. I know they do.

When my parent lived in Melbourne in the 60's they operated a cleaning shop which Melbourne did not support to much in 1964. Just Mr. Miller. Well not just Mr. Miller but almost. Not many folks in Melbourne got their pants pressed by the Dry Cleaner in 1964. Ha!

Well I enjoy reading your posts and will look forward to reading them again.

Gailla

Well...thank you and I'll try to answer some questions.

Melbourne probably hasn't changed that much since you lived there. Probably some new buildings here and there where some old ones burnt down, but not a lot.

Yes...the Millers...well, there's two more familys in town now, so you might just consider it a 3 family town. Having lived there you'll know what I mean.

They still would not support a dry cleaner. There is a set number of businesses, and they seem to have no real desire for expansion, it's even more "southern" than Evening Shade is.

And that's a tough act.

If your father was a Moser, you ain't got no problems in Izard County, and I believe that carries into Fulton also. I got some Moser friends, and they're fine folks.

There's a sizeable hospital in Batesville, the White River Medical Center, there's a smaller one in Salem, and then one in Calico Rock where my internist is.

I don't know if they employ social workers, but I know that, If i can recall the name correctly, (googlefinger wakes up and dances) Arkansas Department of Human Services does:

http://www.arkansas.gov/dhs/homepage.html

There's one in every county, and back when I browsed the state job adds, like 2 years ago, they hired frquently.

There are no "money" jobs around here as most everyone farms, and most commerce is up around Ash Flat, Highland, and Hardy, where city folk and *affluent* retirees reside.

I'm retired, and I "farm", in the sense that I produce fiber, which means I sell timber. They come in, cut some, I plant more, and the government then shows me how much they love their farmers.

It beats working for "the man".

Whoever that is.

I'll be more specific on the path to be a happy hillbilly on DM, but not on the forum.

It's still just as beautiful around here, Gailla. Lots of redbuds, dogwoods, bartlett pears, magnolias just about everything you can think of for the zone.

The wild blackberries just bloomed, and although I have quite a few not too far from the house that I utilize, I also have a 1/2 mile of them along one of my fencelines, a standing, albeit beautiful, testimonial to Rogmar's laziness of not bush hogging the fence line in February.

You've got a *ton* of kin round these parts, Gailla.

I hope you can at least visit sometime.

[Gailla Moser]

Dear RogMar,

Thank you so much for writting back so soon about Melbourne. Yes, I will at least try a visit by this summer. They still have a Moser reunion in Salem around labor day usually at the school gym I believe every year. Maybe I will make that. I would love to visit with those relatives. I have found out quite a bit about Moser genealogy and would love attending the reunion. I am also related to Eary and Helms which also are no strangers to the area. Also Luster, Blackburn and several others in the area.

Batesville, I will look into that White River Hospital, that was were my grandmother lived and I remember that hospital. However, I am sure it is not in the same place.

Rogmar did you grow up in Salem or in the Melbourne area? Where did you go to school?

Three more Miller families, I think one was enough. I mean they practically ran everything if my memory serves me correctly.

In fact I really think Mr. Miller J.C. I believe is what my father called him kind of tricked my father into buying that Cleaning Shop to begin with and through the deal my father lost that little piece of land with the sink hole on it to the bank. I guess that is not a very nice thing to say about a town leader and I hope neither he or anyone in his family is reading this but I believe that is what happened.

Thank you so much for the job information I will make sure to look into it you are so kind to let me know all about it.

Have a great day!

Gailla