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Old 11-05-2009, 02:11 PM
 
Location: SW Michigan
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Default Dry Counties- fees, permits

I have a question about dry counties with restaurants.
You can still serve in a dry county cant you? Is there a special permit since its a dry county? Does anyone know what the fees are for liquor vs beer/wine? Here in MI they are different and didnt know if it was there.. We are looking at putting a restaurant in NW AR and want to know if it goes into Benton country what might be intailed with that. Anything else we need to know with putting a business in with a dry county?? Thanks!!!
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Old 11-05-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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Benton County is the wettest dry county I've ever heard of. Restaurants often do serve alcohol, under the umbrella of being a private club. You have to apply to the ABC, I don't know the fees involved. You should note that Fayetteville is in Washington County, and Washington County is not a dry county. Hence the county-line liquor stores.
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Old 11-05-2009, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I have a question about dry counties with restaurants.
You can still serve in a dry county cant you? Is there a special permit since its a dry county? Does anyone know what the fees are for liquor vs beer/wine? Here in MI they are different and didnt know if it was there.. We are looking at putting a restaurant in NW AR and want to know if it goes into Benton country what might be intailed with that. Anything else we need to know with putting a business in with a dry county?? Thanks!!!
I am not sure of the requirements but yes, even in the dry counties which pretty much here is Benton, you can serve liquor, the establishment becomes a club or the patrons belong to the club. It is really a huge joke!!!! One of the very successful new eateries in Bentonville just got their license. I think they are just serving beer and wine, I am not sure...You probably can do just fine with just the beer and wine license as it seems that is what so many drink. I do agree you need something...I know, lots of tea drinkers only around here, but lots of us like our wine when we are eating out. Heck, I like mine when I am on the computer. I just tell everyone I am dyslexic, I think I am really enjoying the wine too much..
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:17 PM
 
Location: SW Michigan
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I am not sure of the requirements but yes, even in the dry counties which pretty much here is Benton, you can serve liquor, the establishment becomes a club or the patrons belong to the club. It is really a huge joke!!!! One of the very successful new eateries in Bentonville just got their license. I think they are just serving beer and wine, I am not sure...You probably can do just fine with just the beer and wine license as it seems that is what so many drink. I do agree you need something...I know, lots of tea drinkers only around here, but lots of us like our wine when we are eating out. Heck, I like mine when I am on the computer. I just tell everyone I am dyslexic, I think I am really enjoying the wine too much..
You crack me up!!!

I hear about these "clubs".. yeah kinda a joke. We currently serve everything, but especially saki and Thai liquors,so this license would have to be something we think of. Do you know if we have to wait to apply after we open? or can we do it before? Anyone know the fee or requirements to become a "club"? Do you have the customers sign something to belong to the club first?

Just want to make sure I know everything thats involved first
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:49 PM
 
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I have a question about dry counties with restaurants.
You can still serve in a dry county cant you? Is there a special permit since its a dry county? Does anyone know what the fees are for liquor vs beer/wine? Here in MI they are different and didnt know if it was there.. We are looking at putting a restaurant in NW AR and want to know if it goes into Benton country what might be intailed with that. Anything else we need to know with putting a business in with a dry county?? Thanks!!!
A dry county liquor permit is a rare and valued animal in a lot of this state. I know because I have one.

You have to take a one day class in Little Rock with the ABC (Alcohol Beverage Control), where basically, a guy will stand up there for about 6 hours, excluding a lunch break, and tells you how easy it is to lose your license.

Then you submit all the forms.....yes *all* the forms, with fingerprint cards, pay your money, wait for the background check, and if you're OK, and nobody challenges you, you get a permit.

This year the fee was $500. Next year it's going up to $1,500.

Then you spend $10.00 for the rule book, and study.

You have to have a sign-in book, a "sponser" present for guests or have a membership card system, submit drawings of where your book is located in relation to the entrance/bar. Have *all* patrons submit a complete address, and that is much tougher than you think, and be clear on all health department and ABC undercover visits.

ABC will hit you with fines every now and then if you aren't paying attention.

Too many violations, and you're out of business.

Can't tell you about Benton county particulars. I reckon my blood-stained boots would stick out up there.
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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A dry county liquor permit is a rare and valued animal in a lot of this state. I know because I have one.

You have to take a one day class in Little Rock with the ABC (Alcohol Beverage Control), where basically, a guy will stand up there for about 6 hours, excluding a lunch break, and tells you how easy it is to lose your license.

Then you submit all the forms.....yes *all* the forms, with fingerprint cards, pay your money, wait for the background check, and if you're OK, and nobody challenges you, you get a permit.

This year the fee was $500. Next year it's going up to $1,500.

Then you spend $10.00 for the rule book, and study.

You have to have a sign-in book, a "sponser" present for guests or have a membership card system, submit drawings of where your book is located in relation to the entrance/bar. Have *all* patrons submit a complete address, and that is much tougher than you think, and be clear on all health department and ABC undercover visits.

ABC will hit you with fines every now and then if you aren't paying attention.

Too many violations, and you're out of business.

Can't tell you about Benton county particulars. I reckon my blood-stained boots would stick out up there.
Even $1500 is a hell of a lot cheaper than some states. How about thousands like NM..

Nita
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Old 11-05-2009, 08:36 PM
 
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Even $1500 is a hell of a lot cheaper than some states. How about thousands like NM..

Nita

Did you know that Little Rock has the highest mixed drink/cocktail taxes in the U.S.?

That was a little mention in the ABC class, but I'd already figured that one out during my quest for gay-bashing homophobic rednecks.

A few days/nights in LR, and the upside is there's a whole lot more "bonus points" on my mastercard.

You can guess the downside.

Deer hunting is cheaper.

Kinda.

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Old 11-08-2009, 05:36 AM
 
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I reckon my blood-stained boots would stick out up there.
I hope you are talking about deer hunting.









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Old 11-08-2009, 05:52 AM
 
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I hope you are talking about deer hunting.


Mainly squirrell.

I do the "tuxedo" skinning, and about 1/3 of the time nick the torso. Then, when you grab the back feet to peel it, it'll explode on ya. Doesn't really hurt anything, but you don't wear purty boots when you do it.
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Old 11-08-2009, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Cedar City, Utah
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Wow ok. Can we get back on topic of dry counties now?
thanks.
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