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Old 05-01-2010, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Indiana
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Default ... more Fayetteville/Fort Smith

After reading many of the replies about these two areas, I have additional questions about relocation to this specific area in Arkansas.

We are retired folks, currently living in green woodlands of southern Indiana. We love our house which we built 15 years ago and we love our 6 acres of privacy and wild critters. All that we love about our home is outweighed by our preference for longer [warmer] yearlong "outdoor" days and for an escape from a subdivision environment which seems more divisive with each passing year. We're ready to quiet down and leave the debates to others.

Our preference for relocation to Arkansas might be to find an area several miles from a large urban setting, but still readily accessible for medical and shopping needs. We have built 3 homes in the last 30 years and would probably not look to do that time time around. A simple home, a couple of acres of trees, friendly neighbors, home priced $175K to $200K would fit the bill nicely. We're just under 70 years of age and still like to ride out Harley and like to eat out or occasionally have a beer.

We visited Hot Springs a few times during the past due to its southern locale but didn't find Hot Springs to be exactly what we wanted. Lots of action, lots of tourists in Hot Springs. We also visited Mena and found that area to be a very nice place but a bit too laid back for us. Now we're focusing upon the NW corner of the state in order to find a compromise.

Any thoughts or suggestions will be appreciated.
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Old 05-01-2010, 11:50 AM
 
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Fayettville is a thriving metroplex while Fort Smith is like Mayberry but with a good selection of Viet and Thai food.
The Japanese restaurant selection in the Fort Smith area is lacking but we are getting a Mitsubishi wind turbine factory so who knows...

They have the BBBQ bike rally in Fayetteville every year so you'll probably like that wherever you choose to live.
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Old 05-01-2010, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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Friendly - Yes, we're familiar with the Blues, Bikes, and BBQ Rally in Fayetteville. We've been riding motorcycles since before we knew better. <G>

Would outlying property values tend to be less in the Fort Smith area as opposed to the Fayetteville area? In your opinion, would the cost of living near Fort Smith be less, as well?

Thanks.
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Old 05-01-2010, 01:11 PM
 
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Would outlying property values tend to be less in the Fort Smith area as opposed to the Fayetteville area? In your opinion, would the cost of living near Fort Smith be less, as well?
I would think so.
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Old 05-01-2010, 08:04 PM
 
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You can find some very pretty and reasonable property outside of Fayetteville, or you could even try up in Eureka Springs. Maybe...45 minutes from Fayetteville and GORGEOUS. It's a big town for motorcycles too, and has a great downtown. I would imagine land/houses would be pretty reasonable there.

Here's the thing about Fort Smith. I've been there A LOT. And everytime I've been, the only thing I could think about was leaving. Downtown is pretty, but Fayetteville is a much better environment I think.
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Old 05-01-2010, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Tulsa, OK
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You can't really compare Fayetteville and Ft Smith as they are very different cities. The only thing they have in common is that they are in Arkansas. It really just depends on what you want out of your nearby city. Ft Smith will have everything you'd most likely need but Fayetteville will have far more entertainment possiblities. You could look at somewhere like Mountainburg and be close to both cities and even be just a few hours from Tulsa and Little Rock.
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Old 05-01-2010, 09:12 PM
 
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Oh well, give me spring rolls and my own website and I'll be happy in Fort Smith.

If your in Fort Smith and you need something Tig welded hit me up Prowler.
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Old 05-01-2010, 10:15 PM
 
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The two are very different cities but the rural outskirts of each are very similar. Ft. Smith is only 45 minutes south of Fayetteville and there are several very very rural cities in between. You might check those out, but I think they would offer way too slow of a lifestyle for you...BUT cities like Greenwood or West Fork might work since they are very close to Fay and Ft. Smith. Farmington, Eureka Springs, Garfield, Tontitown, Little Flock, Avoca, Cave Springs are all towns that have maintained a pretty recluse way of life while still being within 5-10 miles of the larger cities in the area.

Northwest Arkansas is the most expensive part of Arkansas...but it's still Arkansas cheap. Taxes are a little higher in the area but they all seem to go to good visible use since the area is growing so quickly. Obviously in the smaller towns I listed above taxes wouldn't be near as high. There is also a Harley store in northeast Rogers if you're interested.

Last, you might also check out houses out by the lake (Beaver Lake). Some can be very expensive but there are a lot that are originals and very cheap (need a little work of course). The major lake communities are based mostly in the outskirts of Rogers and Lowell out toward the Prairie Creek area. Out by the lake is where you're going to find most of your wooded acreages. The other small towns I listed offer more of the farmland/grassland and wooded combination.

In the end Northwest Arkansas is great for people with your interests because it really doesn't take but 10 minutes to get away from the city and into the middle of the country.
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Old 05-02-2010, 05:10 AM
 
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These have been some excellent replies. Thanks to everybody who had something to say about Fort Smith and Fayetteville and little towns in between those two. This is a great forum (IMO).

Our primary reason for considering Arkansas has to do with the more favorable weather conditions in your State. We simply don't enjoy being cooped up indoors for half the year due to snow/ice/cold. The difference in weather between central Arkansas and So Central Indiana simply amazed us whenever we visit Hot Springs in February and/or March. Granted, warmer temps are consistent in the more extreme SW parts of the country as well as parts of the SE part of the country - but Arkansas always seems like one of those "best kept secrets" with its mix of mild temps, beautiful countryside, moderate humidity, and friendly folks. It just appeals to us.

It would take someone from Arkansas to answer this question, but how much difference is there with foul winter weather conditions between Rogers (at the northern end) and Fort Smith approx 75 miles to the south? We have noticed that 100 miles in either direction can make a difference in some areas of the U.S.

Anywhere we end up, we'll be outside and away from any busy areas. We love to VISIT places of activity but our lifestyles have changed to the extent that there cannot be too much quiet when we choose to be at home. Those suggestions that point to some area in between Fayetteville and Fort Smith are probably right on target for us. We'll head your way again and this time focus more on rolling woods and greenery ... places which are reasonably accessible to businesses, medical facilities, and other forms of activity ... without actually being in that mix.

Thanks again for all your input. We would love to hear any other thoughts or ideas you might have. Hard to imagine getting too much information.
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:01 AM
 
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These have been some excellent replies. Thanks to everybody who had something to say about Fort Smith and Fayetteville and little towns in between those two. This is a great forum (IMO).

Our primary reason for considering Arkansas has to do with the more favorable weather conditions in your State. We simply don't enjoy being cooped up indoors for half the year due to snow/ice/cold. The difference in weather between central Arkansas and So Central Indiana simply amazed us whenever we visit Hot Springs in February and/or March. Granted, warmer temps are consistent in the more extreme SW parts of the country as well as parts of the SE part of the country - but Arkansas always seems like one of those "best kept secrets" with its mix of mild temps, beautiful countryside, moderate humidity, and friendly folks. It just appeals to us.

It would take someone from Arkansas to answer this question, but how much difference is there with foul winter weather conditions between Rogers (at the northern end) and Fort Smith approx 75 miles to the south? We have noticed that 100 miles in either direction can make a difference in some areas of the U.S.

Anywhere we end up, we'll be outside and away from any busy areas. We love to VISIT places of activity but our lifestyles have changed to the extent that there cannot be too much quiet when we choose to be at home. Those suggestions that point to some area in between Fayetteville and Fort Smith are probably right on target for us. We'll head your way again and this time focus more on rolling woods and greenery ... places which are reasonably accessible to businesses, medical facilities, and other forms of activity ... without actually being in that mix.

Thanks again for all your input. We would love to hear any other thoughts or ideas you might have. Hard to imagine getting too much information.
I'll try to provide some more insight about the weather that you wouldn't be able to see from history data necessarily.

Ft. Smith is definitely warmer than Fayetteville hands down, but only by 5 degrees on average I would say. It offers a little higher humidity and seems to get hit by every thunderstorm that goes through Arkansas.

I can speak a little more specifically about Fayetteville. Fayetteville experiences almost exactly 3 months of each season on average (of course we got a very very unusual and decently heavy snow this winter but that never happens so late, especially in late march). It probably hits 100+ degrees in Fayetteville a TOTAL of 1-2 weeks during the summer (not consecutively) and sits in the 90s all summer.

Although the snow for the Fayetteville area has been strange the last few years (too little and too much), we usually see 1-2 big snows (6+ inches) and just a few more 2-5 inch snows but they all typically melth off by the next day or two. Everything closes when it snows, especially in Fayetteville since it's one big hill of a city. The main winter issue in the area is ice. The ice is a real threat here. No one knows how to drive it in and it causes a lot of problems. We probably have 5-10 minor ice storms throughout the year but only 1 major one (typically icy snow mix).

Tornadoes are very prominent in all of Arkansas with much of the major tornadoes occurring in the rural mid section of the state. The Fayetteville area gets tornadoes very frequently but you would almost never know it since they are all very small spinoffs of real tornadoes that hit the western edge of the Ozark Mountains along the state border with Oklahoma (tornado alley). Delaware county on the border in Oklahoma seems to be the center of activity for every major storm coming through the area. Luckily the majority of the damage is always just fallen trees and limbs along with some shingles off the roof.

It can get very cold in Fayetteville. It hits the high single digits probably less than 5 times per winter and the teens a dozen or more times. It usually sits in the 20s for the lows for winter (20 low with a 40 high is pretty typically so that's why the snow never lasts). Overall you will feel cold here at times but nothing compared to Indiana.

The Fayetteville area is the coldest part of the state but is still warm on average. The area sits on the Ozark plateau and has a much higher elevation than most of the rest of the state so that may be the reason along with it being in the north obviously.
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