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Old 09-24-2010, 05:56 PM
 
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There are two interesting books -amongst others- that discuss this very phenomenon:

Sons of the Yellow Emperor - Lynn Pan
The Bamboo Network - Murray Weidenbaum
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Old 09-24-2010, 08:53 PM
 
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Chinese are known for being "The Asian Jews".
They're known for being businessmen.
They integrate very well too. Most Thai and Filipinos, some Cambodians, I've met here are part Chinese, the national hero of the Philippines in Chinese.
I know a number of Ethnic Chinese from Vietnam, Indonesia, and Burma, the Little Saigons here are often run by ethnic Chinese from Vietnam.
There is a company here (I don't know it) that send a lot of Singaporeans here. All of them I've met are Chinese, except one who was Indian.

I personally accredit it Chinese culture, which seems to have a heavier emphasis on education and leadership.
The integration of ethnic Chinese into politics: Particularly in Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore, and the Philippines is evident of it.
I don't necessarily think it's because the other races are inferior, although many of my relatives do think so.
Even I am evidence of Chinese integration. I'm mostly Chinese but I have some my grandmother is a 1/4 Indonesian.

It shouldn't all be attributed to the presence of Ethnic Chinese though. In fact I think it's a relatively small part of it all that happens to be more coincidental.
In fact it might be the opposite when you really think about it. If Chinese are such business men then they're going to go where the economy is doing well.
I suppose it's up to interpretation
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Old 09-24-2010, 11:32 PM
 
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CM Dallas, True Jews are asian. Israel is not part of Europe.

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Old 09-25-2010, 12:55 AM
 
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Is there a direct link with the economic development of southeast Asian countries and the percentage of the countries population that is ethnic Chinese?

I don't meant to offend anyone from those countries that are not ethnic Chinese, but when you look at the statistics, it just seems that those countries that have more ethnic Chinese should feel lucky.

I know that they have been discriminated against because of their success, but you can't deny the positive influence of their merchant class values.

Singapore: economy on par with Japan, western Europe, US, etc. 75% ethnic Chinese.

Malaysia: a distant 2nd., but stands out from other SE Asian countries economically. 25% Chinese.

Thailand: 3rd most economically developed: 10-15 Chinese.

Philipines, Indonesia, and Vietnam come next: a distant 4th, 5th, and 6th

Then Myanmar, Cambodia, and Laos, which have economies/lifestyles more similar to sub-Saharan Africa. I believe these countries have the fewest Chinese.

What do you think?
The Chinese in South East Asia are the wealthiest minority and they are like the Jews of the west.

In Indonesia even though Chinese represent around 2 to 3 percent they control an large amount of the wealth there and have done so since Colonial times when they started arriving enmass and that was encouraged by the European powers that ruled that region then.

Not all Chinese in South East Asia are rich and many are poor. However they can be discrimiated against the native population esp in Malaysia and Indonesia. There has been cases of Anti Chinese riots there in the past.
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Old 09-25-2010, 01:03 AM
 
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China is doing very well under its Socialist government, its very debatable if China would be better off today if they were a Democracy from the start [under Mao]. The main advantage that I see for China and its ability to dictate to its citizens is the one child law. Without that law [under a Democracy that law would never have happened] China's population today could very likely be 2 Billion people or more instead of the 1.3 Billion its at today.

That would mean far more people who are starving, far more people who would need to have homes built for them [land is already scarce in China], and more jobs would be needed to employ them. Thats not counting the pressure on the eco-system either, its massive today as it is but with 400-700 million more people it would be far worse.

For a country as densely populated as China is, dictating family size is a god-send imo. Its controversial and I know not everyone will agree with me. But the sheer size of the Chinese population itself is a bonus to China today since it has stabilzed but if it continued to sky rocket its a huge problem that doesnt always fix itself.
China would soon face huge problems with its aging population growing alot faster than the younger generation and it could be more an serious issue than what is facing the west.

Not all areas of China have an one child policy and ethnic minorities and certain rural areas can be exempt from it.

China had serious famine problems in the last 50 years but it got nothing to do with China being too over populated. It was the government communist failed experiments of the great leap foward that caused the famine. That famine was one of the worst ever famines of the 20th century and could be the biggest famine too.

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Old 09-26-2010, 05:00 PM
 
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If you ran an regression with those statistics I am sure you can find a correlation... But I believe the stronger correlation would be with foreign born population, which would promote international investment and trade

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Is there a direct link with the economic development of southeast Asian countries and the percentage of the countries population that is ethnic Chinese?

I don't meant to offend anyone from those countries that are not ethnic Chinese, but when you look at the statistics, it just seems that those countries that have more ethnic Chinese should feel lucky.

I know that they have been discriminated against because of their success, but you can't deny the positive influence of their merchant class values.

Singapore: economy on par with Japan, western Europe, US, etc. 75% ethnic Chinese.

Malaysia: a distant 2nd., but stands out from other SE Asian countries economically. 25% Chinese.

Thailand: 3rd most economically developed: 10-15 Chinese.

Philipines, Indonesia, and Vietnam come next: a distant 4th, 5th, and 6th

Then Myanmar, Cambodia, and Laos, which have economies/lifestyles more similar to sub-Saharan Africa. I believe these countries have the fewest Chinese.

What do you think?
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