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There are real "Thai-Chinese" which is even lighter+more of northeast asian features than the "Real Thai".
The real Thai are darker than Thai-Chinese but still lighter than those Cambodian/Malaysian you posted.
aside from the red shirt thai...who I believe may actually be real thais...the rest dont look much different...your going to need to further analyze the difference...some chinese can be as dark as those " real thai" you posted
a highly-celebrated epic on the origins of the present-day Visayan people is about the Ten Datus of Borneo. It was said that they originated from an area occupied by the thalassocratic empire of Sri Vijaya during the early 13th century. In an attempt to escape the despotic rule of a Rajah Makatunaw and the subsequent fall of the empire, the datus, led by Datu Puti, fled eastwards to what is now the island of Panay. The island at that time was ruled by an Ati chief Marikudo who was later given a golden sadok and a necklace for his wife, Maniwantiwan, in purchase of the Borneans of Panay for new settlement.[3] It was said that the name for the inhabitants, Bisaya, was derived from their original land, Sri Vijaya.[4]
visayan language isnt grouped with tagalog....tagalogs dont understand visayan languages at all
its a totally different langauge to them
qouted from filipino students
Again, how did the majority come from Borneo when the languages are distantly related? Visayan is A LOT more closely related to Tagalog and every other language of the Philippines and even Northern Sulawesi than it is to any Bornean language.
Languages aren't grouped together based on mutual intelligibility. Those would be considered dialects of the same language. Languages are grouped together based on how closely they're related based on a number of factors that linguists use. Tagalog, Visayan languages, Bicol, and some other languages are grouped in the Central Philippines group, that's just one branch of the Philippine language branch, which includes other branches that have all the other languages of the Philippines, plus Northern Sulawesi languages. Then you have to go out one more level to get to the Borneo-Philippine language family. Why am I explaining this all over again? You reply "well Visayans can't understand Tagalogs" OK, well Visayans definitely can't understand native Borneans, the languages are even more distantly related.
Again, how did the majority come from Borneo when the languages are distantly related? Visayan is A LOT more closely related to Tagalog and every other language of the Philippines and even Northern Sulawesi than it is to any Bornean language.
Languages aren't grouped together based on mutual intelligibility. Those would be considered dialects of the same language. Languages are grouped together based on how closely they're related based on a number of factors that linguists use. Tagalog, Visayan languages, Bicol, and some other languages are grouped in the Central Philippines group, that's just one branch of the Philippine language branch, which includes other branches that have all the other languages of the Philippines, plus Northern Sulawesi languages. Then you have to go out one more level to get to the Borneo-Philippine language family. Why am I explaining this all over again? You reply "well Visayans can't understand Tagalogs" OK, well Visayans definitely can't understand native Borneans, the languages are even more distantly related.
actually bornean language is much closer to visayan language to the ears
especially the pronunciations....tagalog is as foreign as italian
Im not in favor of you damn hybrids trying to dictate all the other ethnic groups in the country....
well that argument wouldnt work because those real thai arent ethnic thai but jek
I think the red shirt people picture may be real thai
amongst visayans phenotypes range from malay to east asian
When did I say that the real Thai will always look the real Thai????? Sometime, There are some "Genetic drift" happen among the majority that will make some individuals turn out the have diffrent looks than the most of majority. Like I said before "Real Thai" have chance about 20-30% to "Genetic drift" and turn out to looks more Northerner or either more Southerner than the majority of them. So there will be 20% chance of "Real Thai" to turn out to have Northeast Asian (Northern Chinese/Japanese/Korean) looks. while another 20% chance to turn out to have Cambodian/Malays looks. While the Majority (60%) of the Real Thai still looks Thai, which is on the middle between Northeast Asian (Northern Chinese/Japanese/Korean) and Cambodian/Malays . "Genetic drift" could happen in all kind of heman begin.
actually bornean language is much closer to visayan language to the ears
especially the pronunciations....tagalog is as foreign as italian
I dont care about your ears. Linguists study this **** for a living and they dont have the biases that you have. You have no proof, just a stupid agenda. All you have is a legend, which I dont doubt happened, but not all, or even the majority of Visayans came from Borneans because if they did then Visayan languages would be closely grouped with Bornean languages and not languages of the Philippines. Please give me a reasonable explanation and not some BS that you thought up yourself.
And I'm not Tagalog. I'm Bicol, which is closely related to Visayan. It's basically in between Tagalog and Visayan languages, which are part of a language continuum. That continuum doesnt exist between Visayan and Bornean languages, sorry...
When did I say that the real Thai will always look the real Thai????? Sometime, There are some "Genetic drift" happen among the majority that will make some individuals turn out the have diffrent looks than the most of majority. Like I said before "Real Thai" have chance about 20-30% to "Genetic drift" and turn out to looks more Northerner or either more Southerner than the majority of them. So there will be 20% chance of "Real Thai" to turn out to have Northeast Asian (Northern Chinese/Japanese) looks. while another 20% chance to turn out to have Cambodian/Malays looks. While the Majority (60%) of the Real Thai still looks Thai, which is on the middle. "Genetic drift" could happen in all kind of heman begin.
I dont care about your ears. Linguists study this **** for a living and they dont have the biases that you have. You have no proof, just a stupid agenda. All you have is a legend, which I dont doubt happened, but not all, or even the majority of Visayans came from Borneans because if they did then Visayan languages would be closely grouped with Bornean languages and not languages of the Philippines. Please give me a reasonable explanation and not some BS that you thought up yourself.
And I'm not Tagalog. I'm Bicol, which is closely related to Visayan. It's basically in between Tagalog and Visayan languages, which are part of a language continuum. That continuum doesnt exist between Visayan and Bornean languages, sorry...
your not visayan....so of course you wouldnt know what a language that resembles visayan languages would sound like
In the 12th century, Hindu-Animist descendants from the late empire of the Sri-Vijayan, Majapahit and Brunei,[2] By the 14th century, Arab traders and their followers venturing into the Malay Archipelago, converted some of these tribal groups into Muslims. These tribes practiced a mixture of Islam, Hinduism and native Animist beliefs. There is also some evidence of trade and immigration between other Asian people in the area as early as the 9th century. The Tumandok people of the mountainous region of Panay island are the only Visayan group to maintain pre-Hispanic Visayan culture and beliefs, due to their geographic isolation from lowland Visayan groups.
your not visayan....so of course you wouldnt know what a language that resembles visayan languages would sound like
In the 12th century, Hindu-Animist descendants from the late empire of the Sri-Vijayan, Majapahit and Brunei,[2] By the 14th century, Arab traders and their followers venturing into the Malay Archipelago, converted some of these tribal groups into Muslims. These tribes practiced a mixture of Islam, Hinduism and native Animist beliefs. There is also some evidence of trade and immigration between other Asian people in the area as early as the 9th century. The Tumandok people of the mountainous region of Panay island are the only Visayan group to maintain pre-Hispanic Visayan culture and beliefs, due to their geographic isolation from lowland Visayan groups.
Where does this say that all or the majority of Visayans came from from Borneo? That's like saying that the majority of Filipinos came from Spain just because a few Spaniards took it over and made it their colony. Obviously there were already plenty of people in the Visayas and they were speaking languages related to Tagalog, and the continue to speak them today. If they came from Borneans, dont you think they would speak languages closely related to Bornean languages.???????????????
No i'm not a Visayan, but you're not a linguist so stop denying the research that they've done. I don't care what your ears hear. Your eyes are bad too, so how am I supposed to trust your ears. You dont have any sources to back you up
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