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Old 04-30-2012, 03:58 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Would you say Turkey is midway between the theocracies of the Middle East like Iran and Saudi Arabia and Western Europe? Is it similar to say Eastern Europe, maybe Romania or the Ukraine? I know the population is still overwhelmingly Muslim, but it's a secular state and has relatively lenient laws by Middle Eastern standards.

Would you say the cities of the west like Istanbul, Izmir and Antalya are considerably more cosmopolitan than the east and central Anatolian plateau? How do most Turks view say different races or homosexuals? Are women treated fairly equally?
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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1.Would you say the cities of the west like Istanbul, Izmir and Antalya are considerably more cosmopolitan than the east and central Anatolian plateau?

2.How do most Turks view say different races

3.homosexuals?

4.Are women treated fairly equally?
1.Yes, a lot more

2.Equally as far as i know

3.Most Turks i know don't like them but they don't want to kill them either, just don't hang out with them.

4.Not to Western European standards but for a muslim country it's not that bad.
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:08 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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1.Would you say the cities of the west like Istanbul, Izmir and Antalya are considerably more cosmopolitan than the east and central Anatolian plateau?

Yes very cosmopolitan, especially Istanbul.

2.How do most Turks view say different races:

Turkey is not what I would call an ethnically diverse country, but I personally lived in Istanbul for a year and am Black. While I did stand out, I did not experience any overt racism or issues when conducting business.

3.homosexuals?

Istanbul specifically has a vibrant Gay scene, but in more traditional parts of the city you will not see openly gay people as much as you would many other cities.

4.Are women treated fairly equally?

There are growing opportunities for women in Turkish society and I would say it is rapidly improving, but there is work to be done.
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:09 PM
 
Location: American Expat
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Honor killing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not very much.

"Turks" born in Europe are different. Why would you mention Europe, Davy-040? It's not the same. Probably the same with Turks who moved to Europe.. different mindset. At least most of them.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:04 PM
 
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I'd imagine not even as liberal as the Southern United States, but probably pretty close
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Old 07-15-2015, 04:34 AM
 
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Turkey is not what I would call an ethnically diverse country,
This is not accurate. Many Americans understand the 'ethnically diverse' through American racial terminology, i.e. Black, White, Latino, Asian, and Turkish Nationalism, which has tried to mask the considerable diversity in Turkey by calling everyone "Turkish" (Kurds were, for a while, known as "Mountain Turks"), doesn't make it any easier for some outsiders to spot the variety. But the country has many non-Turkish populations. Kurds, Zaza, Laz, Gypsies, Albanians, Bosniaks, Circassians, Arabs, Georgians and Abkhaz, as well as various other groups with smaller populations.

The rest of your post I completely agree with, though I should point out that Izmir is more liberal than Istanbul.



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Honor killing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not very much.

"Turks" born in Europe are different. Why would you mention Europe, Davy-040? It's not the same. Probably the same with Turks who moved to Europe.. different mindset. At least most of them.
Two of the primary impressions Turks who visit (Northern) Europe return with are these:

1) Europeans are racist
2) Many of the Turks in Europe are very, very conservative. Some of them even continue to live like they are still in 1960's Anatolia.

Educated Western Turks are, in general, more modern and progressive than most Turks in Europe. They derive most of their values from 'The West'.

Also, it should be pointed out that 'honor' killings are a phenomena of Southeastern Turkey, and the culture of that area differs greatly from the culture in the West. As your link noted, they occur in the Western largely (if not exclusively) due to migration from that area.

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Old 07-16-2015, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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I spent a month in Turkey and know a few Turkish Americans
1.Would you say the cities of the west like Istanbul, Izmir and Antalya are considerably more cosmopolitan than the east and central Anatolian plateau?
Yes, never went to Izmir or Antalya but Istanbul and Ankara are extremely Cosmopolitan
2.How do most Turks view say different races
They seem to worship black people because of Didier Drogba (I got my picture taken with by over 20 Turkish people during the trip (Partially because on 2-3 different occasions I wore a Galatasaray Jersey). All jokes aside, I saw people ranging from East Asian looking (Probably Kazakhstan and eastern turkey maybe) to darker skinned Arabian looking to basically like they where straight out of The Netherlands. I would say 30-50% of people at anytime depending on where we were could pass for Eastern European and even 10-20% could pass for Northern European. Maybe it was because we were in northern turkey but it got to a point I couldn't tell some of the German tourists apart from Turkish people till they started speaking.
3.homosexuals?
Don't know, Don't care, but they seemed open besides so many American apps being banned in Turkey.
4.Are women treated fairly equally?
Easily the best for any Muslim-majority country I have been in not saying much since I have only been to 2. The only time my friends had to were headscarves was in historic mosques and many people who were Turkish themselves in the colleges we went to didn't have scarves at all.
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Old 07-19-2015, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Bellerose, NY
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Turkey is an extremely modernized, secular country. It is no way even close to a theocracy like Iran or Saudi Arabia.
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Old 08-06-2018, 11:53 PM
 
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Tons of false misconceptions going on. Progressive on nightlife bars Discotheques Hookah Lounges Nargile Venues. Virtually throughout Middle East, there is surprisingly easygoing nightlife from my own experience rarely readily accessible in contemporary light for other area. Remember, complex trajectory flow of national truths that is not nearly as abundant in Europe cultural anthropological foundations. Any imaginable event is around. Always mesmerizing to see.
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