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Old 01-19-2016, 07:11 PM
 
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so all other countries that follow the culture of other countries are colonial? wtf


so when China followed communism they have colonial mentality? and when Japan and all the rest want democracy they have colonial mentality too?
Communism was not forced on China by invaders.
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Old 01-19-2016, 11:07 PM
 
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Dude, get some Pinoy pride. As in, pride in your own culture, and not whiteness or whatever
a countrys culture has many factors. it maybe the result of invasion, immigration...

you can not change history. it will always be part of who you are
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Old 01-20-2016, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Democracy with the LDP running it for the majority of the past 50 years??


Japan and the rest of Asia really doesn't carry the same type of democracy in the West.
We don't, but Japan is the closest. Korea and Taiwan are too young and India is too...Idk what's the deal with it.
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Old 01-21-2016, 04:11 AM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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Dude, get some Pinoy pride. As in, pride in your own culture, and not whiteness or whatever
But, that post-colonialism is part of Pinoy culture, pride and identity... It seems to work for most Filipinos I've known. Some societies and cultures have happily shed as many semblances of European colonialism as they are able to (China, India are good examples) while others have embraced some of the elements of that colonialism which suit them well (the Philippines, Argentina, etc).
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Old 01-21-2016, 06:50 AM
 
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But, that post-colonialism is part of Pinoy culture, pride and identity... It seems to work for most Filipinos I've known. Some societies and cultures have happily shed as many semblances of European colonialism as they are able to (China, India are good examples) while others have embraced some of the elements of that colonialism which suit them well (the Philippines, Argentina, etc).
Most people in Argentina are Caucasian, so it is ok for them to fully embrace western culture. The genetic map of Argentina is 79% European. However, Filipinos will never been perceived as Caucasian or western.

The Philippines seriously needs some real national pride, not based on their colonial history. They need to believe they are a great nation capable of achieving great things on themselves. Any country without national pride is bound to fail.
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Old 01-21-2016, 09:46 AM
 
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Globalization is not the same as westernisation.

I would not label Singapore as a heavily westernised city. It is still very Asian in culture except for the fact that English is very widely spoken.

HK, is very globalized, and not very westernised which is similar to Singapore. Why I say globalization is not the same as westernisation? In HK, there are significant cultural influences from both western and eastern sources. There are the influences from Mainland China, Taiwan, Japan and Korea which are no less significant than the western influences. There are also some influences from SE Asia and S Asia. Significant non Chinese population in HK like Singapore as well. Well connected by air to many cities around the world. HK laws is almost identical to English laws.

The influence of China, Japan, Korea and to a lesser extent Taiwan and HK are strong in Eastern and Southeast Asia. Actually western influence in Asia is decling a bit nowadays.

Most globalized cities of Asia- HK and Singapore, attracting many foreigners from around the world to visit or move there.
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Old 01-21-2016, 10:03 AM
 
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But, that post-colonialism is part of Pinoy culture, pride and identity... It seems to work for most Filipinos I've known. Some societies and cultures have happily shed as many semblances of European colonialism as they are able to (China, India are good examples) while others have embraced some of the elements of that colonialism which suit them well (the Philippines, Argentina, etc).
Argentina is mostly European, while the Philippines is not. A non-European society embracing colonialism is not healthy for the people living in them. It develops inferiority complexes and self-hate. In my family, my mom and her siblings all have green eyes except one, and she developed a complex about it that is all too common in mixed race societies. It is not mentally healthy, and thinks she is inferior as a result
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Old 01-21-2016, 10:06 AM
 
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Most people in Argentina are Caucasian, so it is ok for them to fully embrace western culture. The genetic map of Argentina is 79% European. However, Filipinos will never been perceived as Caucasian or western.

The Philippines seriously needs some real national pride, not based on their colonial history. They need to believe they are a great nation capable of achieving great things on themselves. Any country without national pride is bound to fail.
wow..seems you forgot that the reason why Chinese are all over the world are because life at home was hard..and china would still be not where it is now if Deng Xiaoping didn't open trade to the world. and that's with a thousand years of civilization.


fact is, govt policies either enrich you or make you poor. it has nothing to do with "culture".
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Old 01-21-2016, 10:22 AM
 
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wow..seems you forgot that the reason why Chinese are all over the world are because life at home was hard..and china would still be not where it is now if Deng Xiaoping didn't open trade to the world. and that's with a thousand years of civilization.


fact is, govt policies either enrich you or make you poor. it has nothing to do with "culture".
Sure it does. A government is 'usually' a reflection of the culture of a country. Filipino culture, with its heavy Spanish influences, has a very corrupt and inefficient government just like the Spanish speaking countries (probably except Chile and Spain). When you have a large coincidence like that, it gives weight that government is also reflected from the culture of a country. After all, humans populate the government structure, not robots, and all humans have culture
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Old 01-21-2016, 12:21 PM
 
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Sure it does. A government is 'usually' a reflection of the culture of a country. Filipino culture, with its heavy Spanish influences, has a very corrupt and inefficient government just like the Spanish speaking countries (probably except Chile and Spain). When you have a large coincidence like that, it gives weight that government is also reflected from the culture of a country. After all, humans populate the government structure, not robots, and all humans have culture
so when china was poor because of communism, you blame their culture and not the collectives the communists imposed?
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