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Old 06-12-2012, 01:56 AM
 
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In the present time, yes...

In the past (especially their record during WW2 in various Asian countries that they occupied) definitely not...
They may not torture and slaughter millions anymore (maybe only because they can't), but they are still perverts by Western values, and seriously pedophilic.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:48 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Based on perception, Japan comes off as being a pretty orderly society. They value education and hard work and are be committed to strong family ties, loyalty and respect for elders. They seem to have a strong love for their nation and continually do their part to make it better. There's also a lot less crime there than in the U.S.

On the other hand, Japan's behavior and imperialist ambitions during the early to middle 20th century show that the Japanese can be as ruthless as any nation if given the chance.

Given these contradictions, do you think that the Japanese are a greater moral standard for the world compared to the U.S., or not?
Presently. Definitely true. Very comfortable socity and country for a foreigner (or anyone) to live in.

Regarding the mid-20th Century. We have to put things into context. Prior to that time, the western world was brutal. Europe completely destroyed three entire other continents (North America, South America and Oceania) and basically replenished it with European people moving into those areas. Africa was completely carved up. Asia was under many colonial powers, etc.

When Japan arrived on the scene....if you wanted to be respected, that's what you did. You started conquoring and colonizing. Unfortunately for Japan, it was no longer acceptable at that time. Germany as well, for that matter. They came on the scene for doing that stuff one century too late.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:03 AM
 
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Many Americans say that Japan is the devil's country, since there aren't many Christians there and people freely have sex, unlike America where people only have sex when they're married, and only for the purpose of procreation.
We do?!
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:18 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Presently. Definitely true. Very comfortable socity and country for a foreigner (or anyone) to live in.

Regarding the mid-20th Century. We have to put things into context. Prior to that time, the western world was brutal. Europe completely destroyed three entire other continents (North America, South America and Oceania) and basically replenished it with European people moving into those areas. Africa was completely carved up. Asia was under many colonial powers, etc.

When Japan arrived on the scene....if you wanted to be respected, that's what you did. You started conquoring and colonizing. Unfortunately for Japan, it was no longer acceptable at that time. Germany as well, for that matter. They came on the scene for doing that stuff one century too late.
That is true. What we can learn from this is that virtually all nations were founded on the blood of other people. People conquer other people, the strong conquer the weak, that is human nature, trying to single out any nation as being more moral or more evil just shows your ignorance, biased-ness and lack of familiarity with different cultures. Cultures have differed in certain ways, but there are very few cultures (apart from some pacifists/religious orders) or civilisations which I can say are truly peaceful and good. Even the so-called peaceful Tahitians have black marks on their history. Colonialism was mostly a matter of the means/opportunity and the motivation: there's no difference between Greeks/Macedonians conquering the Near East, Aryans conquering India, Turks conquering Asia Minor/Anatolia, or the Huaxia tribes of Northern China conquering the 'Barbarians' of southern China to Europeans conquering the new world. It's just that the effects of European colonialism are more easily seen today.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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LOL have you really even lived in the States before? I did for more than 5 years and this just is NOT true at all! i.e. College dorms in real life, real-life stories from friends, and the list goes on...
Lol. I think it is funny how some people (like the poster you referenced) say that Americans are too puritanical and don't have enough sex, while others claim that we are vulgar sluts who have sex with anything that moves! I mean, which one is it?
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:07 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Lol. I think it is funny how some people (like the poster you referenced) say that Americans are too puritanical and don't have enough sex, while others claim that we are vulgar sluts who have sex with anything that moves! I mean, which one is it?
American is contradictory, to the person.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:08 AM
 
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Based on perception, Japan comes off as being a pretty orderly society. They value education and hard work and are be committed to strong family ties, loyalty and respect for elders. They seem to have a strong love for their nation and continually do their part to make it better. There's also a lot less crime there than in the U.S.

On the other hand, Japan's behavior and imperialist ambitions during the early to middle 20th century show that the Japanese can be as ruthless as any nation if given the chance.

Given these contradictions, do you think that the Japanese are a greater moral standard for the world compared to the U.S., or not?
Yes to a greater extent.

Loyalty to nation, respect for family and elders, hard work and determination, consideration for others' needs, being united and remaining calm and poised especially in tense situations... These are traits that would make a nation remain strong and stable however tough the going is.
Also, the income gap between the poor and the wealthy is quite narrow by global standards which allude to the fact that no particular class is being favoured or overlooked over the other.


On the other hand, Americans are known for being aggressively divided over politics, religion, race and other sensitive issues. Not to mention too that not everyone from each state is entitled to the same basic rights such as affordable education and healthcare. I can foresee that if there is ever a war fought on American soil between the US and another country, not every American soul would be as united as their Japanese counterpart.

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Old 06-12-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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virtually all nations were founded on the blood of other people. People conquer other people, the strong conquer the weak, that is human nature, trying to single out any nation as being more moral or more evil just shows your ignorance, biased-ness and lack of familiarity with different cultures.
Then Mother Russia is an exception? It has always been peaceful (and VERY strong!) beyond comprehension.
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Old 06-12-2012, 08:18 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Then Mother Russia is an exception? It has always been peaceful (and VERY strong!) beyond comprehension.
Lol, is that what they taught you in school back when you were the USSR?
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Lol, is that what they taught you in school back when you were the USSR?
I'm almost beginning to think he's just a recent "incarnation" of previous trolls who were banned not too long ago...
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