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Old 05-22-2012, 09:29 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Based on perception, Japan comes off as being a pretty orderly society. They value education and hard work and are be committed to strong family ties, loyalty and respect for elders. They seem to have a strong love for their nation and continually do their part to make it better. There's also a lot less crime there than in the U.S.

On the other hand, Japan's behavior and imperialist ambitions during the early to middle 20th century show that the Japanese can be as ruthless as any nation if given the chance.

Given these contradictions, do you think that the Japanese are a greater moral standard for the world compared to the U.S., or not?
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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The contradiction of which you speak has more to do with human nature in general than the morality of a give nation-state. Look hard enough and you'll find these contradictions among all nations.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:22 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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The Japanese, as a culture, are pretty openly and unabashedly racist and sexist, so... No.

:-)

Their culture is rather admirable in other areas though. I generally respect the Japanese even if they wouldn't want me immigrating to their country.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:35 AM
 
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All peoples are of uniform morality, but are also equally subject to the sins of anger, pride, etc. They are also sufficiently gullible that they can be easily convinced that things are quite appropriate under some circumstances, no matter how immoral they might seem at other times. And can also be persuaded that nationalism is the highest calling, and at different historical times, rises to a different pitch level.

Let's say a tourist bus, with passengers from 20 different nationalities, comes across a horrible road accident. Do you think you can predict, on nationality alone, which tourists will start pulling survivors out of the flaming wreckage?
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:48 AM
 
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I have to say that I was very impressed with the way their citizens handled the aftermath of the earthquake/tsunami last year. People waited on lines to get supplies, didn't hear of any rioting or fighting, people seemed to do what they could to help each other.
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Old 05-22-2012, 01:00 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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It would never occur to me that the Japanese would be morally superior to anyone. And why choose the Japanese? It seems like a random choice. There's less crime just about anywhere, compared to the US. And remember; Japan was forced to disband its army as a result of armistice terms at the end of WWII. They were coerced into being a peaceful nation.

Now Canadians, they might be morally superior to the US. Orderly, low crime, civic-minded (free medical care), etc.
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Canada
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It would never occur to me that the Japanese would be morally superior to anyone. And why choose the Japanese? It seems like a random choice. There's less crime just about anywhere, compared to the US. And remember; Japan was forced to disband its army as a result of armistice terms at the end of WWII. They were coerced into being a peaceful nation.

Now Canadians, they might be morally superior to the US. Orderly, low crime, civic-minded (free medical care), etc.
No, that's just what foreigners think because they don't pay enough attention to our country. Like the Japanese, we've gotten a whole lot of stuff right and have built a fairly successful country out of Canada, but we are definitely not morally superior and, like any other country, we have a ton of sins to answer for. Ongoing, protracted (but bloodless) very complicated ethnic tensions between the French and English in Quebec. A terrible history with our Aboriginal peoples, and the situation has not improve much. They live in third world like conditions on many reserves and this is our national shame. The Alberta tar sands. List goes on. That's not to say we haven't done plenty right, but we ain't perfect either, we never have been.

There's no such thing as a truly moral country, but we can try our best regardless! Fight to right our wrongs and do what we can to live in just societies. This is the human condition, we will always get some things right and some things wrong.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:02 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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You're right, Bimbam I deliberately skipped the part about the Aboriginal peoples. The tar sands issue is being provoked by the US, though, isn't it? If it weren't for US demand for oil, the tar sands issue wouldn't exist. Thanks for your post.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:20 PM
 
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Based on perception, Japan comes off as being a pretty orderly society. They value education and hard work and are be committed to strong family ties, loyalty and respect for elders. They seem to have a strong love for their nation and continually do their part to make it better. There's also a lot less crime there than in the U.S.

On the other hand, Japan's behavior and imperialist ambitions during the early to middle 20th century show that the Japanese can be as ruthless as any nation if given the chance.

Given these contradictions, do you think that the Japanese are a greater moral standard for the world compared to the U.S., or not?
Exactly as bolded, based on perception. You may see good parts of their culture, but there are also lots of negatives that you don't see and are possibly 'hidden' from foreigners. People are people. We all have our problems.
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Old 05-23-2012, 01:31 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Japan is a very unique nation..
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