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Old 08-19-2012, 09:57 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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It definitely happens. When I was in Turkey, there were a bunch of people who were like "really??" when I said I was from the US because they thought I was a local. One older guy went as far as telling me I was lying and he said I was tricking him, even though I was clearly speaking English in a non European/Middle Eastern accent. It was like unfathomable to them that someone with mid east descent could be living outside of the mid east.
Exactly what I'm talking about.
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Old 08-19-2012, 12:39 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Sometimes when I travel in Asia - and I've been to 5 countries in SE Asia and China now, and I tell people I'm from Australia, many seem either unable to understand or accept this. Well maybe not A LOT, but a sizable minority. Even if my accent isn't obvious enough, some of them have said 'I don't believe you, I think you're from [insert random Asian country]' as if the only Australians are white people.

They probably don't understand that Australian is a nation of immigrants and not homogeneous unlike most Asian nations, but it's annoying that they can't seem to wrap their head around this. I wonder what they think when you tell them that you only speak English, lol.
I'm Indian American. I can speak conversational Bengali, so that helps when I'm traveling in that part of India. I don't usually encounter the problem you're describing. Rather, most people I come across in India seem to assume I'm from some foreign country judging from my mannerisms and such. I always get strange stares from a few people whenever I'm in India. lol.
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Austin
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At least you don't have to deal with the curiosity faced by many mixed races, particular those with more than 2.

If you want them to believe, just speak to them in English, and pretend your local language level is next to none. Some responses can be quite amusing.
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Old 08-27-2012, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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This IMO is not so strange. Most Asian countries are VERY homogenous, so all a typical person living in an Asian country sees is people like himself. Now if you switch on the international news about, say, USA or Australia, what does he see? Politicians, sportsmen, etc. How many American/Australian politicians are Asian? Sportsmen from the US are typically white or black. It is difficult to grasp that US/Australia are multicultural (including Asians) unless one has actually been there, or reads extensively. If you are a rural person in Asia (or a city-dweller not well-versed in International affairs), it is a weird concept.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:22 PM
 
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A big reason that I think is Asian westerners are not that traditional and conservative unless they are first or 1.5 generation.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Burnsville, Minnesota
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Try this more up to date one.

Census of Population and Housing

Land of many cultures, ancestries and faiths

Besides your origional post said european, not white. By Australian and US measuring systems, the populations of the likes of Iran, Iraq, Lebenon, Syria, Egypt etc etc are close to 100% white.

They sure are not european however, and neither are the 2.5% of australians who are either Aborigional or Torres Strait islanders.
I don't get why the census considers Middle Easterners and North Africans white. They aren't white people. Sure, they can be called Caucasian, but that doesn't mean they're white. All whites are Caucasian, but not all Caucasians are white.
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Old 08-30-2012, 02:09 PM
 
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I don't get why the census considers Middle Easterners and North Africans white. They aren't white people. Sure, they can be called Caucasian, but that doesn't mean they're white. All whites are Caucasian, but not all Caucasians are white.
The racial classifications, in regards to EEO and the Census, are just about politics, nothing more.

The catch all is National Origin discrimination policies, this allows for a little common sense leeway in regards to discrimination complaints (I know, not addressing the census).

For an accurate census, there would need to be at least a hundred different categories.
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Old 08-30-2012, 03:35 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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I don't get why the census considers Middle Easterners and North Africans white. They aren't white people. Sure, they can be called Caucasian, but that doesn't mean they're white. All whites are Caucasian, but not all Caucasians are white.
Actually the only race based question in the Austrlian census is the one asking if you are aborigional or a torres strait islander.

It just asks where you were born, and the birth place of your parents. However, "Asia" as defind by the abs only includes the countries from Afganistan to the east, or bascially indian and oriental asians.

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Old 09-02-2012, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Derby, Western Australia
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Asian people in Asia don't generally accept me as Chinese/Asian, when I was younger people I was often referred to by strangers in Singapore as "ang mo kia" (red hair/European child) even though I'm half Chinese.
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:44 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Asian people in Asia don't generally accept me as Chinese/Asian, when I was younger people I was often referred to by strangers in Singapore as "ang mo kia" (red hair/European child) even though I'm half Chinese.
Yeah a few times now when I'm in Singapore someone will start speaking to me in Mandarin, then realise that I don't understand anything they're saying lol...the language of business, though, is typically English although Mandarin is often used.
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