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Old 09-03-2012, 09:18 AM
 
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Basically Singapore today is the vision of one man: Lee Kuan Yew. He ruled Singapore from the front and then from behind the scenes for decades. Since the country is so small, it's easy to impose such stringent controls in day to day life.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:03 AM
 
Location: The heart of Cascadia
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Singapore has a violent crime rate half of that of Hong Kong's and the same as Tokyo, or Newport Beach (a very rich suburb of Los Angeles). Singapore bans homosexuality, but I don't think they execute gays like Saudi Arabia does.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:08 AM
 
Location: The heart of Cascadia
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Although I actually still donate to Amnesty International, sometimes I wonder what's so terrible about corporal punishment? As long as the person is not injured, I mean a few whips of the cane might actually go a long way to discouraging vandalism.
It seems disproportionate to the crime, that's why. But I see where you're coming from I guess. I was beaten pretty bad by my stepfather and my brother so I'm pretty anti-corporal punishment for that reason. Not that I have any hard feelings about it anymore.

I think fining is a good punishment for vandalism. Or, make them buy paint and scrub it off. Restorative justice.
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Old 09-03-2012, 10:10 AM
 
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The good thing is that it's such a small piece of land that they have authority over. Unlike He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:49 AM
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Basically Singapore today is the vision of one man: Lee Kuan Yew. He ruled Singapore from the front and then from behind the scenes for decades. Since the country is so small, it's easy to impose such stringent controls in day to day life.
I just mentioned Lee Kwan Yew in another post. He mentioned that corporal punishment did him no harm in school, so he implemented it on Singapore.
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Old 09-03-2012, 07:38 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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It seems disproportionate to the crime, that's why. But I see where you're coming from I guess. I was beaten pretty bad by my stepfather and my brother so I'm pretty anti-corporal punishment for that reason. Not that I have any hard feelings about it anymore.

I think fining is a good punishment for vandalism. Or, make them buy paint and scrub it off. Restorative justice.
Well I mean for something quite serious/repeat offenders. Not that I would actually advocate for it to be introduced, but maybe it does have it's point. But yeah, child abuse is inexcusable and in the end I don't think violence really solves anything. Fining is probably sufficient yes.
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:31 PM
 
Location: The heart of Cascadia
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Well I mean for something quite serious/repeat offenders. Not that I would actually advocate for it to be introduced, but maybe it does have it's point. But yeah, child abuse is inexcusable and in the end I don't think violence really solves anything. Fining is probably sufficient yes.
It's probably more humane, and possibly more effective than jail time in a way.
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:50 PM
 
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Children should NOT be hit. I am definitely anti-corporal punishment in this regard too. But for adults...it is different because it is less psychological damaging to an adult. Childhood is a very fragile time in a person's development. Also, corporal punishment for adults in Singapore is much more controlled and regulated than a father beating the crap out of you with a belt and you try to struggle. Lastly, the consequences for no corporal punishment of adults is often jail...very inhumane. the consequences for children to be spared corporal punishment is no internet/tv for a few weeks and no psychological damage. There is no comparison to what is done to adults in Singapore and what is done to children in this country.
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Old 09-05-2012, 05:58 AM
 
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^^ agree. Nothing wrong with corporal punishment. Locking people up for a short period of time where decent food and shelter is provided is hardly a punishment and probably doesn't serve the purpose of deterring petty crimes.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:47 AM
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Ah, Singapore...



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