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Old 09-20-2012, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Kūkiʻo, HI & Manhattan Beach, CA
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Another poster sent me this link to an interesting sight that exemplifies how I feel about the modern feminist western/American women. There's some great articles and personal testimonies on there, I knew I wasn't the only one who feels this way.
The Philippines has its fair share of feminists as well. For instance, there's the "General Assembly Binding Women for Reforms, Integrity, Equality, Leadership, and Action" aka "GABRIELA?" It started as a feminist organization that evolved into a political party. They also have affiliated organizations in the United States and other countries.
GABRIELA Women's Party - History
GABRIELA USA - History

Considering that two women have served as President of the Philippines, the current Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is a woman, and approximately 25% of the Philippine House of Representatives is comprised of women, one could say that feminists in the Philippines might be a little further along than their American counterparts in some respects.

 
Old 09-20-2012, 10:08 PM
 
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The Philippines has its fair share of feminists as well. For instance, there's the "General Assembly Binding Women for Reforms, Integrity, Equality, Leadership, and Action" aka "GABRIELA?" It started as a feminist organization that evolved into a political party. They also have affiliated organizations in the United States and other countries.
GABRIELA Women's Party - History
GABRIELA USA - History

Considering that two women have served as President of the Philippines, the current Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is a woman, and approximately 25% of the Philippine House of Representatives is comprised of women, one could say that feminists in the Philippines might be a little further along than their American counterparts in some respects.
I was thinking the same.

Yep, two women have been Presidents of the Philippines. One guy I know who travels often on business throughout Asia, remarked that the Philippines had the most women in high positions than he's seen anywhere else in Asia, by far.

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Old 09-23-2012, 07:49 AM
 
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And they do it without all the radical and extreme pendulum swings found in western feminism. Good for the women of the PIs where a lady is still a lady
 
Old 09-23-2012, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Ostend,Belgium....
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What happens if she can't stand the US and she wants you to go live in her country with her? Would you leave it all behind to go live there? Lots of things can occur that you don't have with US women. Does she get sent back to her country when things don't work out? what if she wants to stay?
I think what someone else said here earlier is not a bad idea..go find one in one of the Philippine communities in the US. After living here a while, the one you'll bring back will be Americanized too, so what's the difference?
 
Old 09-24-2012, 05:54 AM
 
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You and your sisters have made your bed here in the US

lay in it
Don't like women much, do you?

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In Asian countries women are forced into the sex industry against there will or there situations are so dire that they'll literally starve to death.

In the US the majority of prostitute women voluntarily do so because they feel no shame or stigma for doing so. Some women even find it somewhat glamors are prefer to label themselves "escorts", they like the fast easy money so they can go and buy meaningless material items like shoes.

The difference is night and day, thanks for proving my point about American women
Don't know very much about US women, do you?

No wonder you're a loser in the dating game.
 
Old 09-24-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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And they do it without all the radical and extreme pendulum swings found in western feminism.
In some aspects, feminism in the Philippines is more "radical" and "extreme" than elsewhere. In the Philippines, feminism evolved along with nationalism. Thus, in addition to securing the rights of women, many of feminists in the Philippines actively worked to replace existing regimes from the Spanish colonial powers to the Marco's dictatorship. Feminists in other countries simply sought a "place at the table", while feminists in the Philippines sought to "clear the table" before taking a place at it -- a distinction that can be viewed as more "radical" or "extreme." Here's a link to an article that discusses the history of feminism in the Philippines...
The Philippines Women’s Movement(s) and Social Movements: Conjunctures and Divergences

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Good for the women of the PIs where a lady is still a lady
As previous posters have mentioned, some of the "ladies" in the Philippines are men. "Bakla" (cross-dressing, effeminate, homosexual men) have been a part of Philippine society for hundreds of years and are often considered to be a "third gender." With the advances in "gender reassignment" surgery, the only way to be sure that a "lady" is genetically a female in the Philippines (and elsewhere) is DNA testing. For instance, current members of the student government at the University of the Philippines run the gamut in terms of "transgendered" appearances...
UP elects nation's first transgender head of student government
 
Old 09-24-2012, 05:26 PM
 
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Whatever, every Philipino household I have ever been in is extremely patriarchial including my own. Not because I want it that way but because for my Filipina wife that is the default. She makes over twice the money I do but if we decide that we will put dinner on her card, she hands it to me to make the transaction. Now I dont know if that makes me the slob who does her bidding or if she is by habit putting the man out as the bread winner to save "face". What I do know is her father was domineering to the extreme everyone worked in the family business and he controlled every last peso. So im going with she learned from her father that the man was the decision maker, manages the money and is supposed to protect and take care of the family.


When her parents seperated her father TOOK custody of all 5 children. So when you say the PIs is more feminist because of some political theory it doenst mean squat if the man still rules (with an iron fist) in the family
 
Old 09-24-2012, 05:35 PM
 
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And as far as my wifes gender

shes all XXs and I mean one hell of a woman

maybe you should find better places to hang out over there in Angeles city
 
Old 09-24-2012, 07:56 PM
 
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This thread still going?

By now, he should have gotten to the Philippines, gotten married, come back, and be hanging out in Daly City CA.
 
Old 09-24-2012, 08:06 PM
 
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Whatever, every Philipino household I have ever been in is extremely patriarchial including my own. Not because I want it that way but because for my Filipina wife that is the default. She makes over twice the money I do but if we decide that we will put dinner on her card, she hands it to me to make the transaction. Now I dont know if that makes me the slob who does her bidding or if she is by habit putting the man out as the bread winner to save "face".
It sounds like you're the "slob who does her bidding" in that particular situation.

As for "patriarchy" in the Philippines, it's somewhat illusory in many instances. The true power in a household in the Philippines (and elsewhere) lies with person that brings the most money and status to the table.

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What I do know is her father was domineering to the extreme everyone worked in the family business and he controlled every last peso. So im going with she learned from her father that the man was the decision maker, manages the money and is supposed to protect and take care of the family.

When her parents seperated her father TOOK custody of all 5 children. So when you say the PIs is more feminist because of some political theory it doenst mean squat if the man still rules (with an iron fist) in the family
In the situation of your wife's family, it seems that it was pretty patriarchal. However, there are other situations in the Philippines where females "rule the roost." Consider the families of Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, Miriam Defensor Santiago, Imee Marcos, Kris Aquino, Lea Salonga, and countless other women in the Philippines who have been successful in politics, business, and entertainment, it's unlikely that they'd allow the men in their lives to "rule them with an iron fist."

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And as far as my wifes gender

shes all XXs and I mean one hell of a woman

maybe you should find better places to hang out over there in Angeles city
While your wife may be a true woman (with the appropriate chromosomes), some of the "ladies" in the Philippines weren't born as women. In addition to Angeles City, "transgendered females" can be found on university campuses and in the business, political, and entertainment realms.
'Woman Soul': A photo exhibit of Filipina transsexuals - LODESTAR By Danton Remoto - The Philippine Star
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