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Old 11-13-2015, 01:01 PM
 
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May also depend on where from the China their ancestry is from. I assume northern Chinese tend to be lighter than those from southern provinces, on average?
If you read the works of travelers like Marco Polo but also those like Jahiz and the great Andalusi/Maghrebi Ibn Khaldun, you'll see they refer to the southern Chinese as aswad of color (not in the sense of "true negro" and there descendants from the Atlantic slave trade but more broadly in the Sukarno sense of colored people or those around the complexion of a brown bag and then some).

Still the NATO man and his overseers are obsessed with "progress" and for them that means being as close to blonde and blue eyed Germanics as possible.

Progressives,...., eugenics.

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This is part of a scheme to create a schism in Africa between what are assumed to be “Arabs” and so-called “Blacks.”

An attempt to separate the merging point of an Arab and African identity is underway.

This is also why black-skinned Libyans have been targeted in a campaign to “colour cleanse” Libya. The Arab identity in North Africa is being de-linked from its African identity. Simultaneously there is an attempt to eradicate the large populations of ”black-skinned Arabs” so that there is a clear delineation between “Black Africa” and a new “non-Black” North Africa, which will be turned into a fighting ground between the remaining “non-Black” Berbers and Arabs.

Libya had been considered as “a spoiler” which undermined the interests of the former colonial powers in Africa. In this regard, Libya had taken on some hefty pan-African development plans intended to industrialize Africa and transform Africa into an integrated and assertive political entity. These initiatives conflicted with the interests of the external powers competing with one another in Africa, but it was especially unacceptable to Washington and the major E.U. countries. In this regard, Libya had to be crippled and neutralized as an entity supportive of African progress and pan-African unity.

A similar scenario is being staged for a “non-Black North Africa” area which will be characterized by a confrontation between Arabs and Berber. At the same time, under the “Clash of Civilizations” model, the Middle East and North Africa are slated to simultaneously be in conflict with the so-called ”West” and “Black Africa.”
Center for Global Research:Israel and Libya: Preparing Africa for the “Clash of Civilizations”

Globalization seems more like plantationization (U.S. version in particular).
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:05 AM
 
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The aspiration of many Asians (and also many Africans) to be more Western pervades their lives. Perpetuated by advertising (mind manipulation), stereotyping, financed by big pharma and other industries that will benefit from this exploitation.

This desire is also evidenced by cosmetic surgery, western clothing and colonial style ceremonies. These are completely inappropriate issues.

It will only stop when people realize their values have been distorted. All this quest to look more Westernized is actually a waste of money.

You are what you are, some skin deep changes won't change that.
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Old 11-20-2015, 01:24 PM
 
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I believe not only Chou En Lai but also Mao were southerners.

Maoists, Leninstaism, Badawi style!


When you factor in U Nu of Burma and Sukarno of Indonesian, it seems that South Eastern Asia (including southern China) was a hotbed of resistance to the global plantation system.


TO THE OVERSEER CLASS: Remember that even many of the capitalist bloc Eastern Asian nations borrowed from Leninsta theory and if they did get ideas from the capitalistic bloc it was more from Japan.

Some people have gone too far with the massah infatuation.

Mao did lean more toward the NATO at the end but remember he wasn’t in the best of health and he was past his prime.


It sounds ridiculous to destroy the culture of continental Asians and replace it with the culture in the Americas of Asians who worked on the railroads or were interned during WWII.

Don’t let the global plantation erase non-plantation identities.

“The fact is that before establishing diplomatic relations, China and Egypt, and their leaders, shared views about the international situation and its powers, and particularly the emerging African-Asian movement, which was crystallised in the Bandung Conference in April 1955.


When relations between the two superpowers started to shift from confrontation towards dialogue and understanding, both Egypt and China welcomed this development, on condition that their new relations would not be at the expense of other middle and small powers, and would not mean a sort of world hegemony.


Internationally, China, together with other emerging powers like Russia and India, is calling for a world system based on multi-polarity. Egypt must join and encourage this movement, as it is the best formula in the interest of medium and small countries, and world stability.”

Al Ahram Weekly:Egypt-China: Shared experiences

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Old 11-20-2015, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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... not entirely sure what that has to do with Chinese people using BB cream, but OK.
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Old 11-21-2015, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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Probably because white supremacy dictates that lighter, finer skin is prettier?

In any case, it seems that many people of the Asian persuasion suffer from white supremacy due to "Western" influence.
These preferences generally predate "Western" influence. Sorry.
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Old 11-21-2015, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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Whoops, looks like the post I was responding to initially was taken down :X But, I'll leave this here brevity's sake, as it's valid to the discussion and the turns it is taking.

One of the ultimate forms of Eurocentrism is assuming that every other place in the world bases itself off of European ideology, ideas, or norms. Ironically, when a lot of people decide that they are going to reject Eurocentrism, whether purposefully or not, they adopt that attitude that other global cultural spheres operate in an inverse fashion to Western ideology. Basically, what is Western is bad; what is Eastern or African, is good. By proxy, any ideal held by the West must be rejected by other, more virtuous global cultures. Thus, the pale complexion traditionally favored in Western cultures must have been rejected as less-than-ideal by other cultures.

Now, it would be fine if there was any truth to this, but since there isn't, it's just a silly, cartoonish loaf.

In any case, here are a couple paintings of beautiful ladies from the Tang Dynasty (approx 600-900AD):




Here are a couple from the Qing dynasty 1600's-1900's; the last 100 or so years saw much rejection of Westernization, i.e. the Boxer Rebellion, Christian purges, etc):



^ the second one is a depiction of the "Four Ancient Beauties of China," almost universally depicted as being lily-white.

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Old 11-21-2015, 08:19 AM
 
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Japanese and Korean whitening cosmetic products are popular in also in Taiwan, HK and major Chinese cities.
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Old 11-21-2015, 08:23 AM
 
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All the people in China, regardless of ethnic groups, can be dark or light, it very much depends on how much exposure to sunlight the person actually has, more than depending on his or her location's latitude. For example, Hainan people can be medium light, yellow or dark. Heilongjiang people can be very light to a bit dark. Vietnamese, Koreans and Japanese can also range from light to dark.

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Tibetans are the darkest.
The lightest skin is found along Yangtze river, and in northeast China.
People in the north are slightly darker than people in those places, and those in the very south are the darkest.
Double lid eyes are more common in Eastern Japan, Southern China and Southeast Asia.
Tall noses and light skin are more common in Northern areas.

But you can often see locals with nature large double lid eyes, taller noses and lighter complexions in Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Vietnam and Thailand. Maybe they have ancestors from different regions.
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It's an Asian thing, we value large double lid eyes, taller noses and lighter complexions etc. I actually have all of that values being full blooded Asian. Many other Asian would even think I'm mixed.

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Old 11-21-2015, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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Whoops, looks like the post I was responding to initially was taken down :X But, I'll leave this here brevity's sake, as it's valid to the discussion and the turns it is taking.

One of the ultimate forms of Eurocentrism is assuming that every other place in the world bases itself off of European ideology, ideas, or norms. Ironically, when a lot of people decide that they are going to reject Eurocentrism, whether purposefully or not, they adopt that attitude that other global cultural spheres operate in an inverse fashion to Western ideology. Basically, what is Western is bad; what is Eastern or African, is good. By proxy, any ideal held by the West must be rejected by other, more virtuous global cultures. Thus, the pale complexion traditionally favored in Western cultures must have been rejected as less-than-ideal by other cultures.

Now, it would be fine if there was any truth to this, but since there isn't, it's just a silly, cartoonish loaf.

snip...
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Old 11-21-2015, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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All the people in China, regardless of ethnic groups, can be dark or light, it very much depends on how much exposure to sunlight the person actually has, more than depending on his or her location's latitude. For example, Hainan people can be medium light, yellow or dark. Heilongjiang people can be very light to a bit dark. Vietnamese, Koreans and Japanese can also range from light to dark.


Double lid eyes are more common in Eastern Japan, Southern China and Southeast Asia.
Tall noses and light skin are more common in Northern areas.

But you can often see locals with nature large double lid eyes, taller noses and lighter complexions in Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Vietnam and Thailand. Maybe they have ancestors from different regions.
The "Han" ethnicity is pretty much like "white people" or "Africans." Tons and tons of variation in skin tone, facial features, stature and beyond that, regional cultural, linguistic, and spiritual variations.
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