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Old 10-05-2018, 11:28 AM
 
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Lol, my Mom who's a judge said that judges are now supporting the shift to federalism because every state will now have a Chief Justice and it'll be the chances that judges become Chief Justices have now multiplied lels.
please ask your mom if the constitution or present laws prevent the LGUs in building their own ports, airports, libraries, community college, parks, low cost housing, utility services, broadband network, roads, bridges, cold storage for fruits and vegetables, industrial parks, borrowing money to fund these projects?

as per my reading of the constitution, the only service that couldnt be devolved is the police. all others, the LGUs could take over. its just a matter of legislation.
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Old 10-14-2018, 07:04 AM
 
Location: La Muy Noble Leal Ciudad de Iloilo
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please ask your mom if the constitution or present laws prevent the LGUs in building their own ports, airports, libraries, community college, parks, low cost housing, utility services, broadband network, roads, bridges, cold storage for fruits and vegetables, industrial parks, borrowing money to fund these projects?

as per my reading of the constitution, the only service that couldnt be devolved is the police. all others, the LGUs could take over. its just a matter of legislation.
Yes you're right. LGUs can build local infrastructure.
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:08 AM
 
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Yes you're right. LGUs can build local infrastructure.
so what is stopping them?
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:35 AM
 
Location: La Muy Noble Leal Ciudad de Iloilo
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so what is stopping them?
Limited jurisdiction.
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Old 02-04-2019, 01:25 PM
 
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Limited jurisdiction.
or money?
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Old 02-04-2019, 03:49 PM
 
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or money?

its leadership and transparency
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Old 02-04-2019, 04:58 PM
 
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its leadership and transparency
lack of vision (yes leadership)

lets take the Dutertes or the Pimentels..i cant think of any reason why they could not attract foreign investors in their jurisdictions. they have cheap and abundant land, cheap electricity (before the population exploded, now its not even enough)

instead of crying for Federalism, why not persuade the capitalists in Manila or Asia to invest in their cities?

lack of infra? they have congressmen to lobby for projects. they have IRA too.

but you know what? During the Ramos presidency, when he was promoting the Philippines left and right..i never read that they accompanied him to promote their own cities to investors.

as if Federalism will solve the lack of jobs in their jurisdictions..it is lack of vision..and this is true to all local executives
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Old 02-04-2019, 05:48 PM
 
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Lack of vision coupled with a centralized sucking govt then epic fail. Compare that with a place where leaders have no vision too but flow of money is well distributed by several centralized fed govts, which do you think is better? You still is not getting it. But anyway, federalism may not be the ultimate answer but it can be a stepping stone to prosperity.

Changing a system of governance trying all sorts of ways for the betterment is in itself an embodiment of true vision in action.
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Old 02-05-2019, 04:04 PM
 
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Lack of vision coupled with a centralized sucking govt then epic fail. Compare that with a place where leaders have no vision too but flow of money is well distributed by several centralized fed govts, which do you think is better? You still is not getting it. But anyway, federalism may not be the ultimate answer but it can be a stepping stone to prosperity.

Changing a system of governance trying all sorts of ways for the betterment is in itself an embodiment of true vision in action.
i dont know of a federal govt system that distributes its own money to their states/provinces.

pls cite a federal system that does what you are thinking?
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Old 02-06-2019, 12:50 AM
 
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i dont know of a federal govt system that distributes its own money to their states/provinces.

pls cite a federal system that does what you are thinking?

Federal governments don't distribute money back to the states/provinces, but rather leave the states/provinces to collect their own taxes to spend within their own jurisdictions. Like in the USA, each state or even county has different tax systems. Sales taxes are collected and spent locally. VAT in the Philippines are all remitted to the central government.
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