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Old 08-30-2018, 08:03 PM
 
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phillipines need to rename their country something other than after king phillip of spain. That just says inferiority complex and rape my native culture. THey should rename it the garuda islands and put garuda on the flag and go back to paganism or godlessness and focus on science.


majaphit forever!
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Old 08-31-2018, 01:56 PM
 
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The problem why other places in the Philippines do not prosper like Manila is because everything is concentrated in Manila. The Government does not do anything to beautify the rest of the Philippines. The Government doesn't even improve the roads. Everything is just focused on Manila. It is not like that in other countries. In Spain, although Madrid is the capital but Barcelona is also very big that you would even think it is also the capital and they also built many things in Valencia.
But in the Philippines, it's all just Manila, Manila , Manila while the rest are not taken care of.
dont we have the Local Government Code already? dont LGUs get IRA? what do LGUs in the provinces show for this IRA?

is it the government jobs to look for investors to put up in the provinces? isnt that should be the job of mayors/governors to sell their places to prospective investors to relocate in their area? but what are they doing?

lots of national government functions have been devolved to LGUs already like Social Welfare, Health, Agriculture and Environment.

But even for these services, the LGUs cant even provide a good service. how much more if PNP, Fire, Education is transferred to LGUs?

and now they even want Federalism. but the Federalism they want is more share of revenue from the National Govt instead of raising their own money.

be careful what you wish for. Luzon can stand on its own. dont know if Mindanao and the Visayas can pay for their own government and maintain peace and order in ARMM. this region alone is a drag on the economy
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Old 09-01-2018, 07:54 PM
 
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Isn't Mindanao the crappy part of Philippines? They would probably be way worse off if they seceded
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Old 09-01-2018, 08:14 PM
 
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Isn't Mindanao the crappy part of Philippines? They would probably be way worse off if they seceded

The crappy part? Well, it is the poorest part of the Philippines. But it is also the part with the most natural resources. What makes it the poorest part is the security situation with all the Muslim separatist armies and bandits, and neglect from Manila. If the Muslims got their own country in the Muslim majority part, and the rest of Mindanao went in with the Visayas, they could prosper if provided stability and good government. Majority of the population in Mindanao is Visayan anyway.
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Old 09-02-2018, 12:12 AM
 
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But it is also the part with the most natural resources. .
you are an old school. natural resources don't make you rich. aren't you reading about the Malampaya? its about to be exhausted. driving around the compostela where small scale mining abound, they are as poor as the kaingineros. maybe the financiers, corrupt govt officials will get rich but the place and the residents will remain poor unless they uproot after the mines are exhausted.


maybe you haven't read about the ghosts towns in the USA where after there are no more minerals to be extracted, the capitalist just left and left the town.


or maybe you know Levi Strauss. He got rich by selling to the miners


so keep on dreaming that Mindanao will get rich by exploiting its natural resources.


I have good news for you. Batangas, Laguna, Cavite didn't have mines. they have industrial parks. that's the secret. not mines.
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Old 09-02-2018, 12:19 AM
 
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The crappy part? and neglect from Manila
know what? Marcos poured more money in Mindanao than in Luzon (except maybe Metro Manila)

I am from Northern Luzon and we didn't get the roads Marcos built in Mindanao. it is only during the Cory Aquino, Ramos that our road started to be paved.

I had the chance to visit Mindanao last July and the roads are even wider than what we have in Luzon.

so stop the crap that Mindanao was neglected. If you even count the money spent on the military just to stabilize Mindanao, Mindanao got a disproportional share of the taxed collected.
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Old 09-03-2018, 09:03 AM
 
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you are an old school. natural resources don't make you rich. aren't you reading about the Malampaya? its about to be exhausted. driving around the compostela where small scale mining abound, they are as poor as the kaingineros. maybe the financiers, corrupt govt officials will get rich but the place and the residents will remain poor unless they uproot after the mines are exhausted.


maybe you haven't read about the ghosts towns in the USA where after there are no more minerals to be extracted, the capitalist just left and left the town.


or maybe you know Levi Strauss. He got rich by selling to the miners


so keep on dreaming that Mindanao will get rich by exploiting its natural resources.


I have good news for you. Batangas, Laguna, Cavite didn't have mines. they have industrial parks. that's the secret. not mines.

Having natural resources does not make a country poor. They don't prevent development. They are resources that can be used to advantage.
That northern Luzon was also neglected only proves my point about Manila-centric national government.


When did Batangas, Laguna, and Cavite become models of economic development?
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Old 09-04-2018, 10:08 AM
 
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That northern Luzon was also neglected only proves my point about Manila-centric national government.
we know we are neglected but we dont complain as you do in Mindanao as if nothing is being done in your place. and despite that projects poured in Mindanao, it is still has the most poor

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When did Batangas, Laguna, and Cavite become models of economic development?
so what is your model of development? these provinces have no mineral resources to exploit, they have very little farming but they have a lot of jobs? thats where people go because of the jobs

maybe compostela is your model? impoverished people risking their lives just to extract the gold?
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Old 09-05-2018, 07:02 AM
 
Location: La Muy Noble Leal Ciudad de Iloilo
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What's with all this anti-Manila rhetoric? Manila has been contributing more in taxes and receiving less in government spending than what the other cities have.

If you also look at the map, Manila is the Philippines' largest urban area...

A veritable metropolis!



Whereas the rest of the Philippines are just port-cities scattered across a bunch of islands.

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Old 09-05-2018, 07:41 AM
 
Location: La Muy Noble Leal Ciudad de Iloilo
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I wish we could be more like Japan though, where the whole country is developed, not just the capital.

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