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Old 08-28-2015, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Originally Posted by Yanagisawa View Post
I believe their comments have nothing to do with what you describe.
The idea of man has to be "manly" instead of "sissy" is typical chauvinism and is ****ing narrow-minded. I thought that was clear.

Those comments have everything to do with what I described.

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Do you feel the first greeting, Dajia hao, in this video has very strong Taiwan accent?
Yes.

 
Old 08-28-2015, 09:01 PM
 
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The idea of man has to be "manly" instead of "sissy" is typical chauvinism and is ****ing narrow-minded. I thought that was clear.
What I introduced was a typical adjective describing Taiwanese accent by Mainlanders. I didn't say man should be manly or sissy, did I? It is clear now that you have misread something.

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Yes.
How to describe Taiwan accent then?
 
Old 08-29-2015, 08:01 AM
 
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I think the kartvellian/Caucasian languages are beautiful especially Georgian
 
Old 08-30-2015, 04:39 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Originally Posted by Yanagisawa View Post
What I introduced was a typical adjective describing Taiwanese accent by Mainlanders. I didn't say man should be manly or sissy, did I? It is clear now that you have misread something.
You obviously didn't get my point at all.

I meant the notion of how Taiwanese accent is more "娘娘腔" is bigoted and narrow-minded. I thought that was clear.

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How to describe Taiwan accent then?
That it's better.
 
Old 08-30-2015, 09:14 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Greysholic View Post
The idea of man has to be "manly" instead of "sissy" is typical chauvinism and is ****ing narrow-minded.
No one but you said The idea of man has to be "manly" instead of "sissy". I don't get your point.

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That it's better.
OK.

I don't think one is better than the other.
 
Old 09-02-2015, 11:16 AM
 
Location: NYntarctica
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For guys I would say it's Korean, for girls Thai is the nicest sounding
 
Old 09-06-2015, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Then:Philly, PA Now:HCMC, VN
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I think that Japanese sounds the best to me. I just stop and stare whenever somebody speaks Japanese
 
Old 11-09-2015, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Salmonburgher View Post
Many people can distinguish Taiwanese Mandarin from Chinese Mandarin.

I don't believe that you've heard Chinese people make the above statement. Its ridiculous. In 30 years of dealing with Chinese, Taiwanese, and discussing language, I've never heard a single person say this until now.

You have some axe to grind? Odd way of going about it.
Sorry, this is an outdated post, but I was perusing this thread and I had to interject here. It is very much true that Chinese people perceive the Taiwanese way of speaking as very cute or feminine. I'm a Chinese-American and I can confirm this. My own parents, from mainland China, often mock the Taiwanese tv shows because of their very overtly "cute" way of talking. Taiwanese tv hosts often talk with cute mannerisms and gestures, its less about words sometimes than it is about the way they execute it. Second anecdote: When I was in college I conversed with some Chinese international students from the mainland. Right now in China, the whole education system is very strict in getting all kids to learn the traditional standardized mandarin. I, a son of southern Chinese immigrants, said some things in Chinese. The girls giggled and said I sounded like a cute boy and asked if I was from Taiwan. I said no, my parents are from the southern region of China.

Chinese southern accents and Taiwanese accents have a lot in common, which is why some of the Chinese international students thought I was from Taiwan. The linguistic thing they have in common is that they both de-retroflex the consonants zh, ch, sh, in Mandarin. The word zhou1 is pronounced as zou1. z, c, s, zh, ch, sh are pronounced differently, but southern Chinese and Taiwanese people tend to pronounce them as the same.

The thing with the Chinese southern accent is that it is dying in the sense that like I mentioned earlier China has reformed and made it clear that all kids, northerner or southerner, must adhere to strict mandarin, ie you can no longer willy-nilly fuse the pronunciations of retroflexives. The college international students I talked to were all part of South in China, yet they spoke the "correct" form of mandarin compared to my parents. They did not have the awful sounding tongue rolling accent that northern Chinese people do, but nevertheless they easily made out that my Chinese was not the standardized mandarin that they had to learn in school. My parents told me back then when they were taught mandarin, the strict adherence to the retroflexive was not there, hence them speaking the way they do today.

As far as Taiwanese people right now, I'm not entirely sure their situation over there. I don't know if the younger generation over there has to now learn the correct form of standard mandarin like they do in the mainland. But retroflexive aside, Taiwanese have many words and phrases that we do not use and again they have mannerisms in their way of talk or perhaps how they say things that a lot of mainlanders still deem as "cute."

Sorry for the long post, but I just wanted to confirm what others are saying on here. Although not the perception of everyone, this stereotype does indeed exist.
 
Old 11-09-2015, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Japanese. Less nasal and tonal than Chinese. It has lots of beautiful words like "murasaki." Is there a more beautiful way to say "purple"? I don't think so!
 
Old 11-10-2015, 10:06 PM
 
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Malay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yPWo5Mpmvs

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