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Old 11-10-2015, 11:39 PM
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Got it to post the video this time instead of just a link.

Old 11-12-2015, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nwu View Post
Sorry, this is an outdated post, but I was perusing this thread and I had to interject here. It is very much true that Chinese people perceive the Taiwanese way of speaking as very cute or feminine. I'm a Chinese-American and I can confirm this. My own parents, from mainland China, often mock the Taiwanese tv shows because of their very overtly "cute" way of talking. Taiwanese tv hosts often talk with cute mannerisms and gestures, its less about words sometimes than it is about the way they execute it. Second anecdote: When I was in college I conversed with some Chinese international students from the mainland. Right now in China, the whole education system is very strict in getting all kids to learn the traditional standardized mandarin. I, a son of southern Chinese immigrants, said some things in Chinese. The girls giggled and said I sounded like a cute boy and asked if I was from Taiwan. I said no, my parents are from the southern region of China.

Chinese southern accents and Taiwanese accents have a lot in common, which is why some of the Chinese international students thought I was from Taiwan. The linguistic thing they have in common is that they both de-retroflex the consonants zh, ch, sh, in Mandarin. The word zhou1 is pronounced as zou1. z, c, s, zh, ch, sh are pronounced differently, but southern Chinese and Taiwanese people tend to pronounce them as the same.

The thing with the Chinese southern accent is that it is dying in the sense that like I mentioned earlier China has reformed and made it clear that all kids, northerner or southerner, must adhere to strict mandarin, ie you can no longer willy-nilly fuse the pronunciations of retroflexives. The college international students I talked to were all part of South in China, yet they spoke the "correct" form of mandarin compared to my parents. They did not have the awful sounding tongue rolling accent that northern Chinese people do, but nevertheless they easily made out that my Chinese was not the standardized mandarin that they had to learn in school. My parents told me back then when they were taught mandarin, the strict adherence to the retroflexive was not there, hence them speaking the way they do today.

As far as Taiwanese people right now, I'm not entirely sure their situation over there. I don't know if the younger generation over there has to now learn the correct form of standard mandarin like they do in the mainland. But retroflexive aside, Taiwanese have many words and phrases that we do not use and again they have mannerisms in their way of talk or perhaps how they say things that a lot of mainlanders still deem as "cute."

Sorry for the long post, but I just wanted to confirm what others are saying on here. Although not the perception of everyone, this stereotype does indeed exist.

Sorry quoted wrong post. This was the original post I was responding to.

User: Salmonburgher

"I've never heard anyone say that.

To be honest, I don't think Taiwan-accented mandarin sounds feminine at all, except when spoken by girls/women. But, I feel the same about Beijing-accented Mandarin, too."
Old 11-27-2015, 03:45 AM
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I'd say Japanese.
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