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Old 01-08-2013, 04:25 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Tokyo is fairly homogenous but Paris certainly isn't. Paris is extremely diverse: not as much as NYC and London but certainly more than many large cities in the "new world".
That's true, we forget how diverse Paris is in general because culturally it still seems to remain a strong Frenchness.
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Old 01-09-2013, 06:01 AM
 
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I think Shanghai is becoming its own financial hub rivaling Hong Kong.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Shaw.
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Tokyo is fairly homogenous but Paris certainly isn't. Paris is extremely diverse: not as much as NYC and London but certainly more than many large cities in the "new world".
Tokyo is the most diverse of Japanese cities, for what it's worth. There are large numbers of ethnic Koreans (both immigrants and natives), quite a few other Asian immigrants, and more non-military expats than any other Japanese city. I wouldn't call it a diverse city by any means, but it is worth mentioning that it's not simply all Japanese people.
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Old 05-15-2016, 05:48 PM
 
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nyc and london are techinically on their own tier. Tokyo Hong Kong and Paris come after
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Old 05-15-2016, 06:25 PM
 
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Once Hong Kong returned to China, and China opened up, there is no more need for Hong Kong to be a base of operations for people who control the money supply. Well, Hong Kong is nicely built up, and has many luxuries and good food, so that should keep them around. But as other places in China become nicer, that presents competition.
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Old 05-15-2016, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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I feel like Hong Kong is behind the big four (New York, London, Paris, and Tokyo) and Los Angeles.

Singapore is further down the list due to the complete lack of cultural output. Hong Kong used to have quite a lot, but it was crushed.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:05 PM
 
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Hong Kong has never been on the same level as NYC or London. It's way too small. Its size cannot make top 10 in China now.

However, it did have a great influence in Asia.
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Old 05-16-2016, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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Hong Kong has never been on the same level as NYC or London. It's way too small. Its size cannot make top 10 in China now.

However, it did have a great influence in Asia.
Well, Shanghai and Beijing are the only two mainland cities that come close to HK in terms of global prominence, and even those aren't anywhere near the "world city" that HK is. Chongqing has over 9 million people while HK has 7.1m, but, who would on earth would place Chongqing above HK?? It can't even touch cities with less than half its population like Paris (2.2m) or LA proper (3.8m).

I don't understand how one could say that HK is "way too small" when London and NYC have just 1.2m or so more people. HK is definitely still a global city, and I'm willing to bet that a lot of the people saying it isn't haven't actually been there, or were only there briefly and are letting a personal bias against it color their opinions.

Take a look at this list... The World

The other point to be made re: HK vs. SH/BJ/SZ/GZ is that PRC market manipulation and protectionism will prevent it from becoming the global financial powerhouse that it could become. The powers-that-be in the mainland understand this, and that's the main reason that they aren't interfering with HK's markets anywhere near as much as they could if they wanted to. Too many foreign companies have been burned on the mainland for Shanghai to maintain the stratospheric growth and rush for investment it experienced over the last decade and a half.
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Old 05-16-2016, 04:24 PM
 
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Well, Shanghai and Beijing are the only two mainland cities that come close to HK in terms of global prominence, and even those aren't anywhere near the "world city" that HK is. Chongqing has over 9 million people while HK has 7.1m, but, who would on earth would place Chongqing above HK?? It can't even touch cities with less than half its population like Paris (2.2m) or LA proper (3.8m).

I don't understand how one could say that HK is "way too small" when London and NYC have just 1.2m or so more people. HK is definitely still a global city, and I'm willing to bet that a lot of the people saying it isn't haven't actually been there, or were only there briefly and are letting a personal bias against it color their opinions.

Take a look at this list... The World

The other point to be made re: HK vs. SH/BJ/SZ/GZ is that PRC market manipulation and protectionism will prevent it from becoming the global financial powerhouse that it could become. The powers-that-be in the mainland understand this, and that's the main reason that they aren't interfering with HK's markets anywhere near as much as they could if they wanted to. Too many foreign companies have been burned on the mainland for Shanghai to maintain the stratospheric growth and rush for investment it experienced over the last decade and a half.
Hong Kong region has 7 million residents (including the suburbs) but NYC proper alone has 8 million, and there is NJ etc.
The urban area of Hong Kong is also very small, compared to other big cities in the world.

Nobody denies Hong Kong is prominent, but it is relatively small by Chinese standard.
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Old 05-17-2016, 12:31 PM
 
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According to various rankings of cities by financial impact, Hong Kong is pretty much always in the top 5, always above Paris, sometimes above Tokyo and Singapore (depending on who is doing the ranking and the ranking methodology).

Here is a wikipedia that lists a few of the ranking sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_centre

I would say cultural relevance is still quite high for the area, but obviously fading and nowhere near the level it used to be. Tokyo (Japan in general) is still the leader in Asia in cultural exports, with Seoul (South Korea) also being hugely prominent.
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