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Old 06-23-2014, 06:01 AM
 
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I worked for some time in both Seoul & Shanghai and liked Shanghai better. Of course Seoul is more modern but Shanghai people are more open and receptive. Koreans are not rude but they are very hard to get to know and you will never quite fit in.

I did like the food much better in Seoul though.

Regarding the boorish behavior of the nouveau rich Chinese, it reminds me of what "cultured" Europeans have said about Americans. I really thought the Chinese are similar to American culture in the sense that they are focused on business and wealth obtainment. Koreans are more about appearances.
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Old 06-23-2014, 09:39 AM
 
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^Only that outside of Asia,Chinese are still considered dirty,lawless,and loud by many.The difference is that those dirty,lawless,and loud Chinese aren't cheap labour,but nouveau riche.
Americans do not really distinguish different kinds of "Chinese". They are all "Chinese" to them, sometimes even including Koreans and Vietnamese, not to mention Taiwanese.

Those who think they know better would ask "Do you speak Cantonese or Mandarin", or other questions like this.

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Old 06-23-2014, 09:40 AM
 
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Agreed. I have a girlfriend from Beijing who went to Harvard MBA and has her own startup. Absolute pure class. But so many I meet are loud and inconsiderate too.
I was just very annoyed that somebody would call and entire group of people "little brown monkeys"?? Seriously, wtf.
Don't you know Koreans are said to be loud too?
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Old 06-23-2014, 10:29 AM
 
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Most Americans immediately recognize me as Korean here. Unless you live somewhere in the deep south most can distinguish between East Asians, especially when you hear people talk.

And the point was that a Chinese person was extremely rude and going off-topic against SE Asians. Funny how you get all defensive about an anti-Chinese comment I made that was a parody of the original racist remark made by that poster.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Americans do not really distinguish different kinds of "Chinese". They are all "Chinese" to them, sometimes even including Koreans and Vietnamese, not to mention Taiwanese.

Those who think they know better would ask "Do you speak Cantonese or Mandarin", or other questions like this.
It's actually quite easy to tell.The loudest and the rudest group of people are Chinese.If traveling by oneself or immigrants,there wouldn't be any noise issue.
Btw when Chinese travel in escorted tours(the most common way of traveling for Chinese people,I think you understand),they usually have their flag with them.So yeah,easy to tell.
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Old 06-23-2014, 12:40 PM
 
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Americans do not really distinguish different kinds of "Chinese". They are all "Chinese" to them, sometimes even including Koreans and Vietnamese, not to mention Taiwanese.
That's not true at all. I grew up on the West Coast of the US around a lot of Koreans and Vietnamese and no one mistakes the cultures or people for being Chinese. You don't really know what you're talking about.
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:20 PM
 
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Most Americans immediately recognize me as Korean here. Unless you live somewhere in the deep south most can distinguish between East Asians, especially when you hear people talk.

And the point was that a Chinese person was extremely rude and going off-topic against SE Asians. Funny how you get all defensive about an anti-Chinese comment I made that was a parody of the original racist remark made by that poster.
The poster said his grandfather was racist, which may be true. He did not seem to support his grandfather's view.
Your reaction is weird actually.
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:24 PM
 
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That's not true at all. I grew up on the West Coast of the US around a lot of Koreans and Vietnamese and no one mistakes the cultures or people for being Chinese. You don't really know what you're talking about.
I have lived in the US for quite a few years. You can tell me about it.

Yes, of course Americans know China, Korea, Vietnam, and Japan are different countries, but their perception is somehow merged in certain circumstances.

Also, the West Coast, which has the highest ratio of Asian population, does not represent the US well.
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:32 PM
 
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The poster said his grandfather was racist, which may be true. He did not seem to support his grandfather's view.
Your reaction is weird actually.
I think you need to learn how to read, instead of making excuses for this ass. It sounds like you are supporting his views.
Why is it weird that I call out a racist scumbag? Because it wasn't directed at me? Lol.
You are weird for not getting upset.

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Old 06-23-2014, 05:13 PM
 
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I think you need to learn how to read, instead of making excuses for this ass. It sounds like you are supporting his views.
Why is it weird that I call out a racist scumbag? Because it wasn't directed at me? Lol.
You are weird for not getting upset.
Typical "I must win online" nonsense.
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