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Old 01-14-2013, 07:31 PM
 
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I sometimes find it so ironic that Christians in countries where they form the majority are so paranoid at reaching out to the Muslims, while Muslims on the other hand have the guts to go out on the streets, shouting slogans and holding campaigns for the whole country to embrace Islam even when they are only a tiny minority, like the 'Balik Islam' movement and the various Islamist groups in the West.

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I notice in that website its tagalogs who are converting...lol
visayans have a severe disdain for muslims...our ancestors migrated away from borneo to escape islam
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:56 PM
 
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I sometimes find it so ironic that Christians in countries where they form the majority are so paranoid at reaching out to the Muslims, while Muslims on the other hand have the guts to go out on the streets, shouting slogans and holding campaigns for the whole country to embrace Islam even when they are only a tiny minority, like the 'Balik Islam' movement and the various Islamist groups in the West.

Spread the WORD of ISLAM

https://www.facebook.com/pages/BALIK...12310398810000

Under Philippine law, Muslims are accorded some rights based on Sharia. A Muslim man can have 4 wives and can easily get divorced (as opposed to an annulment for non-Muslims which can take very long and expensive). It's been a perennial joke for two timing guys to just convert to Islam. Wonder how many actually converted for this reason.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:00 PM
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Location: Malaysia & Singapore
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I notice in that website its tagalogs who are converting...lol
visayans have a severe disdain for muslims...our ancestors migrated away from borneo to escape islam
Visayans are converting too.

Mindoro: https://www.facebook.com/mindoroislamic

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Old 01-14-2013, 08:06 PM
 
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those are mindanao muslim migrants disguising themselves as balik-islam

mindoro is part of luzon btw
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:13 PM
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Under Philippine law, Muslims are accorded some rights based on Sharia. A Muslim man can have 4 wives and can easily get divorced (as opposed to an annulment for non-Muslims which can take very long and expensive). It's been a perennial joke for two timing guys to just convert to Islam. Wonder how many actually converted for this reason.
There are some Malaysian businessmen who converted to Islam for the sake of getting better business deals from the Government (they do offer incentives for Muslim converts), and then there are the usual guys who converted in order to marry an additional wife (or more wives). Some who do not want to be responsible to their wives and children will convert to Islam too (since by doing so, the marriage between the Muslim convert and non-Muslim spouse will automatically be annuled as invalid in the eyes of the law). It's sad to see people abusing the loopholes of the law to fulfill their whims and fancies.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:16 PM
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those are mindanao muslim migrants disguising themselves as balik-islam

mindoro is part of luzon btw
How do you know they are disguised? They are clearly converts.

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Many Muslim converts embraced Islam when they work in Saudi Arabia or the Gulf countries, and they return to the Philippines with their new faith and establish missions to reach out to their communities.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:30 PM
 
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How do you know they are disguised? They are clearly converts.

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Many Muslim converts embraced Islam when they work in Saudi Arabia or the Gulf countries, and they return to the Philippines with their new faith and establish missions to reach out to their communities.
oh those converts are very small in number...my cousin worked in saudi arabia...though she did not convert
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:37 PM
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oh those converts are very small in number...my cousin worked in saudi arabia...though she did not convert
Don't underestimate converts. They can grow to huge numbers in a couple of decades. Malaysia's Muslim convert population are more than 100,000 in a matter of decades. And if you look back at the history of the Philippines, Islam first arrived with nil Muslim in the archipelago. 7 centuries later, the number swelled to 5 million. Or Indonesia, from nil to 220 million in a span of 8 centuries. (The same analogy could be said of Christianity too, of course)

And of course there are exceptions. Not everyone who's been to Saudi Arabia will convert. It's like saying any tourist who's gone for a visit to the Vatican will come back a Catholic.
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Old 01-14-2013, 08:55 PM
 
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Don't underestimate converts. They can grow to huge numbers in a couple of decades. Malaysia's Muslim convert population are more than 100,000 in a matter of decades. And if you look back at the history of the Philippines, Islam first arrived with nil Muslim in the archipelago. 7 centuries later, the number swelled to 5 million. Or Indonesia, from nil to 220 million in a span of 8 centuries. (The same analogy could be said of Christianity too, of course)

And of course there are exceptions. Not everyone who's been to Saudi Arabia will convert. It's like saying any tourist who's gone for a visit to the Vatican will come back a Catholic.
not gonna happen anytime soon...visayans are very anti-muslim
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:50 PM
 
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There's this "Balik Islam" movement among converts that campaigns for the return to Islam among Filipinos.

I wonder whether there are converts from Muslim to any of the Christian faith in the Philippines? Are there evangelization missions that seek to reach out to them, whether in Christian-majority provinces or in ARMM?
From the name, it seems that the main intent is probably to forgive former Muslims from apostasy and embrace them back to the religion. Most of the Philippines (all of Luzon, all of Visayas, and Mindanao except the southwestern corner) were never Muslim or had not been Muslim for the last 500 years. Why "return" to Islam? Does balik also mean return in Malay?
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