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View Poll Results: I prefer...
Jakarta 50 43.48%
Manila 65 56.52%
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Old 09-09-2013, 04:40 AM
 
Location: Czech Republic
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Raffles Hotel, St. Andrew's Cathedral, St. George's Cathedral, Victoria Theatre, National Museum, Asian Civilisation Museum.etc.

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Picture 1 and 4 look good. I should have spent another day in Singapore.

 
Old 09-09-2013, 04:52 AM
 
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i think Philippines have Vigan, as for Manila they have Intramuros (though quiet small but still nice), in Indonesia we have Bandung, Sawahlunto (Indonesia's Vigan) and many other cities that preserved their building better.... but Jakarta's old town but isn't that impressive anymore....
Yes there is Vigan and it still has cobble stones like in Spain.
Actually, Manila could have had more, only they got destroyed from the Japanese - American war, and none of them even tried to build what they have destroyed, what a waste.
 
Old 09-09-2013, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Picture 1 and 4 look good. I should have spent another day in Singapore.
Did you spend much time in downtown Singapore? Orchard Road is not really the historic core of Singapore.
 
Old 09-09-2013, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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Yes there is Vigan and it still has cobble stones like in Spain.
Actually, Manila could have had more, only they got destroyed from the Japanese - American war, and none of them even tried to build what they have destroyed, what a waste.
The old core of Jakarta are the area surrounding current Monas square, then called koningsplein (king square) and the current surviving one called Fatahillah square which is location of its city hall. The area surrounding koningsplein used to house many Dutch colonial government official building (some still survive, such as the current presidential palace, daendel's'palace, old gothic cathedral and few churches) Many of its old dwelling and houses have been demolished for the square expansion to 1 million square meter and as well skycrappers in its area... So Jakarta destroyed her own colonial buildings, although they're not that impressive and hardly a midrise... Old batavia town lies in northern part of the city but are run down until few years ago, and today many of its building are still crumpling and unsightful, and its surrounding are total mess. The gorverner have planned to restore everything there 6 month time from today and restoration could took months from then, i hope they're restoring it for good.
 
Old 09-20-2013, 10:48 AM
 
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Architecture-Jakarta is more modernized and organized
Roaming around the city-Both cities experience heavy traffics
Costof Living- Almost the same
Night Life- More clubs, bars, and pubs in Manila than Jakarta
Food- Both food tastes good
Shopping-still the same
Cultural sites-better go to Java Indonesia but inside the city, you might as well choose Manila
Natural attractions- There are more nearby attractions in Manila
Climate-Manila is less hot

For visiting-Jakarta
For Living-Manila. But if you decide to stay in the Philippines you should try to live in different places to enjoy the different culture of its people.
 
Old 09-22-2013, 06:20 AM
 
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Both cities have an almost equal standing in terms of their international reputation.
But overall I prefer Manila!
I just love the city's unique fusion of Asian, Spanish and American influences which I find fascinating. I also like its vibrant and festive atmosphere with its its colourful jeepneys and fiestas. Plus the people are incredibly friendly and welcoming, and almost everyone speaks English. It also seems a lot more liberal and tolerant as a place than Jakarta.
 
Old 09-23-2013, 06:52 AM
 
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Calle Crisologo in Vigan (Villages inside the Intramuros Manila will look like this today without the distraction of WWII, I wish there's more 'Calesa' available as public transport)

 
Old 09-23-2013, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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Manila Ocean Park














Intramuros Manila

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Old 09-26-2013, 05:22 AM
 
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Jakarta vs Manila

I think Jakarta is better than Manila, the buildings is much more beautiful in terms of architecture and has a unique flavor, the only thing Manila have is its cluster of buildings but not architecturally interesting.. in terms of environment both are dirty, poverty is bad but worse in Manila (the slums area are bigger and its not safer to carry gadgets there) also Jakarta is a wealthier city than of Manila, but overall the score they're the same in terms of nightlife, traffic (same), natural beauty etc (safari park vs mountain?) as for history, you go to Manila for Spanish (Intramuros) and Jakarta for Dutch colonial histories (Kota Tua or Old Town Batavia) but the Indonesian appear to have much more interesting older history and heritage than Philippines because Ph only exist after colonial era... but language term English is well-spoken in Ph not in Indonesia you may have to learn few words there... shopping? i don't know both have gigantic glittering malls everywhere but i like the malls in Jakarta they're pretty...

city data:
Both Jakarta and Manila are rising giants in South East Asia, Jakarta is headquarter of ASEAN secretariat while Manila is Asian Bank Headquarter

Jakarta
Total population (million) 9.2, Greater area population 27 million
Administrative area (km2) 664.0
Population density (persons/km2) 13,889.9
Globalization and World City Index: Alpha City
Global city Innovaton Index 2013 score: 40
Global City Competitveness rank: 81
no of buildings above 100m: 170
GPD: 224 billion US dollar
GDP per person (current prices) (US$) 7,636.4

Metro Manila:
Total population (million) 11.6 Greater area population 21 million
Administrative area (km2) 636.0
Population density (persons/km2) 18,165.1
Globalization and World City Index: Beta+ City
Global city Innovaton Index 2013 score: 38
Global City Competitveness rank: 81
no of buildings above 100m: 186
GDP: 158 billion US dollar
GDP per person (current prices) (US$) 5,365.3

this site is very useful if you like to compare cities:http://www.siemens.com/entry/cc/feat...eport_asia.pdf



Sorry to burst your bubble but that survey/study was conducted way back 2011 specifically February 2011. Hello, were in mid-2013 now!

 
Old 09-26-2013, 05:50 AM
 
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According to your fellow Indonesian:

I'm an Indonesian living in Singapore.
Let me tell you something.
Most people in this thread have never been to all 3 cities of Bangkok, Jakarta, and Kuala Lumpur. And even if they have visited more than 1 of these cities, it's probably only for a couple of days and restricted to certain areas in the cities only.
I've been to all 3 cities, as well as the other 2 major Southeast Asian cities: Singapore and Manila. Not only have I been to all 5 cities, I go to those cities VERY frequently, spending months upon months. So take it from me, I know these cities very well.
That said, here's what I think.
The most comfortable city in Southeast Asia to live in is undoubtedly Singapore. Why? Because everything there, both basic and tertiary, are first-class. Modern, efficient, impeccable. For expats, it also helps that probably 80% of people living in Singapore can speak fluent English.
The 2nd most comfortable city is Kuala Lumpur. In a nutshell, KL is like a slightly dirtier and slightly more chaotic Singapore. They have all the good facilities that Singapore have, albeit slightly older and more 'worn out'. But still, a comfortable city where at least 40% of the people speak good English.
The 3rd most comfortable city is Bangkok. Similarly, they have almost all the amenities & facilities like Singapore & KL, but slightly less efficient. However, since Bangkok build most of their infrastructure (great airport, BTS skytrain, MRT, etc) around 5 years after KL, their facilities look better & newer than in KL. Only 20% of the people speak English.
The 4th most comfortable city is Manila. Living standard, urban facilities etc are a notch below Bangkok, and the city is pretty chaotic. However, Manila is still better than the city on the 5th place (below) because of its more 'international' feel to it. Almost everybody speaks English (which is a big bonus), and the city is pretty much the most tolerant, relaxed city in Southeast Asia (which is why it's comfortable to live in).
The 5th most comfortable city is Jakarta. To be fair, Jakarta is almost identical to Manila in every aspect, however, Jakarta is more polluted, there's no MRT, and traffic is a perpetual gridlock. However, if we're talking about aspects OTHER than the transportation & sanitary problems, Jakarta is EASILY as good & comfortable as Singapore, KL, Bangkok, and Manila. But it IS true that Jakarta is the LEAST-endowed city among the 5 in terms of public amenities.
Now that I've made those clear, let's talk about misconceptions.
A lot of people here seem to be overly patriotic and will defend their own hometowns no matter what. And worse, people seem to think that just because a city is lacking in one or two aspects, it automatically makes the city very bad.
Despite the rank above, Jakarta is the BEST in Southeast Asia in terms of shopping malls and high-rise architecture. Malls and buildings in Jakarta are generally better-designed than all of the other cities. It is also the best in terms of nightlife.
Bangkok is the BEST in terms of cuisine, fashion, and tourist attractions.
KL is the BEST in terms of landmarks (KLIA, KLCC)
Singapore is the BEST in terms of cleanliness, public service, and transportation (Changi, SMRT / SBS transit)
Manila is the BEST in terms of skyline and building density (Makati skyline is the best in Southeast Asia)
Bangkok is the BEST in terms of hotels / accommodation (even 4-star hotels in Bangkok is better than 5-star hotels in Singapore)
...and so on and so forth.

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