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Old 01-26-2013, 11:42 PM
 
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How is this a fair comparison?

Typical Manileno (someone living on a sidewalk)


Typical Visayan (college graduate)


Do you not realize how dumb that makes you look? Different social classes, obviously. The videos I posted had many individuals in them, not just cherry-picked photos. And they were from the same social class. You can use the excuse that Cebu attracts people from other regions, well then I can use the same excuse. Manila is a HUGE city than attracts people from all over. I'd still say that the majority of the poor people in both Cebu & Manila come from surrounding areas or the city itself. And Cebu is surrounded by the Visayas on all sides. No more excuses for you.

Tiger Beer, Golden Tiger, Great Jack, and probably others have all been to the Visayas and the rest of the Philippines and have told you that the pics you post aren't typical at all. Dont act like Im the only one telling you this. You're fighting a losing battle trying to convince us. Everyone just laughs when they see your absolutely ridiculous posts.


I agreed to you, from my experience that have been in every area of the Philippines, I could guarantee this kind of looks of the girl in above photo is definitely rare in every area of the Philippines (even among college students).


Even majority of college students in University of Cebu are still don't look like the girl in above photo. The girl in above photo seem to be compately diffrent ethnic, maybe like a Chinese or Korean exchange student that come to study English in the Philippines?

Cebu college students of University of Cebu

University of Cebu | Flickr - Photo Sharing!


funshots | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

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Old 01-27-2013, 12:03 AM
 
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If you wanted a true comparison of this pic



You'd have to compare it to street people in the Visayas, not a college graduate I dont care how poor and "simple" you think she is. She's not living on a sidewalk...

Some street people in the Visayas...

Cebu
Wrinkles in Time | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Manong | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Negros
little brother / big brother | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
bacolod smile | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Iloilo
nowhere man | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
street portrait smile | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
need a ride? | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
second look | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
the girl with the gold medallion | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
welcome to my world | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
This Shot's Mine | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
flower power | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Charismatic still? | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Leyte
she's 11 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Samar
Traysikad Driver | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Milar, Town Beggar | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Untitled | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
Relevant | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

Bohol
Boy selling candles in Bohol... | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

*Notice how I dont have to use the same pics over and over like you*

Yet I've never ever seen you post a pic of Visayans even close to this. Poor people all over the Philippines often look like the pics above, it's not just Manila. This is what the "taong grasa" look like all over the country, that's why Filipinos hate those features, including yourself..
 
Old 01-27-2013, 04:03 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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Well I haven't been in Indonesia.

I know you've been hearing bad things in Manila but there's also great places there. But aside from Manila I would like to recommend Cebu City. Well, Cebu City is like 2nd to Metro Manila's Business district and hopefully, it will spread through the entire Philippines including my province of course hopefully.

Metro Manila

Metro Manila, Philippines - YouTube

Cebu City

Cebu City - Cebu Park District - YouTube
 
Old 01-27-2013, 04:24 AM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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He's known for his anti-Manila sentiments and fierce provincialism.
I had thought something was strange.

No where in the world is that bad, maybe Juarez in Mexico. I wouldn't expect a place like Manila to be like that at all.
 
Old 01-27-2013, 04:27 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I had thought something was strange.

No where in the world is that bad, maybe Juarez in Mexico. I wouldn't expect a place like Manila to be like that at all.
No Manila ain't nothing like the Latin American or some African cities, but some areas are legitimately sketchy. It is probably the most dangerous of the major Asian metropolises, but they're all really safe by world standards.
 
Old 01-27-2013, 04:49 AM
 
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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No Manila ain't nothing like the Latin American or some African cities, but some areas are legitimately sketchy. It is probably the most dangerous of the major Asian metropolises, but they're all really safe by world standards.
Crime makes me run away as far as I can.

Don't know if it's paranoia or what but it legitimately scares me, although I've been to "hood" areas in Boston and Houston and absolutely laughed through it. They're soft cities but in Chicago, there are areas where I will never go due to the fear for my life. It's real scary there. I was scared of The Bronx too, just the look of the place turned me going to the other side of the boat (when I saw it from east river).

I can only imagine what those favelas in Rio de Janeiro are like and especially the horror situation in Juarez and Caracas. Jeeeeeez that's insane.
 
Old 01-27-2013, 04:59 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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Crime makes me run away as far as I can.

Don't know if it's paranoia or what but it legitimately scares me, although I've been to "hood" areas in Boston and Houston and absolutely laughed through it. They're soft cities but in Chicago, there are areas where I will never go due to the fear for my life. It's real scary there. I was scared of The Bronx too, just the look of the place turned me going to the other side of the boat (when I saw it from east river).

I can only imagine what those favelas in Rio de Janeiro are like and especially the horror situation in Juarez and Caracas. Jeeeeeez that's insane.
Well in the Philippines, do not go to a place that is crowded so avoid going there and if ever you go there do not wear any attacted jewelries to the crowded areas lol or show any expensive items visible to people like digital camera or cellphone, It's better you bring a friend or a local with you so nobody will take advantage of you as a tourist cause some are crazy people but a lot are nice though
 
Old 01-27-2013, 05:03 AM
kyh
 
Location: Malaysia & Singapore
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No Manila ain't nothing like the Latin American or some African cities, but some areas are legitimately sketchy. It is probably the most dangerous of the major Asian metropolises, but they're all really safe by world standards.
I'd say Pakistani cities are probably more dangerous, since they probably shelter the Taliban remnants as well as the radical factions who will take advantage of any political instability and pose a great security threat to the region. Not to mention Baghdad and Kabul too.
 
Old 01-27-2013, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Crime makes me run away as far as I can.

Don't know if it's paranoia or what but it legitimately scares me, although I've been to "hood" areas in Boston and Houston and absolutely laughed through it. They're soft cities but in Chicago, there are areas where I will never go due to the fear for my life. It's real scary there. I was scared of The Bronx too, just the look of the place turned me going to the other side of the boat (when I saw it from east river).

I can only imagine what those favelas in Rio de Janeiro are like and especially the horror situation in Juarez and Caracas. Jeeeeeez that's insane.
Crime in the U.S. is significantly worse.

I'm originally from Michigan, and I'd much rather walk around Manila or Rio or Sao Paulo (been to all three and spent some good in all of them) than Detroit. Regarding the favelas in Brazil, you don't really 'stumble' into them, like you do in the rough areas of American cities. Fravelas are up in the mountain sides and a lot of walking up into the foothills to get into. You'd have to really want to go there, to end up in them.

In the more dangerous American cities, it feels like you're never too far from a bad area.
 
Old 01-27-2013, 05:49 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Crime in the U.S. is significantly worse.

I'm originally from Michigan, and I'd much rather walk around Manila or Rio or Sao Paulo (been to all three and spent some good in all of them) than Detroit. Regarding the favelas in Brazil, you don't really 'stumble' into them, like you do in the rough areas of American cities. Fravelas are up in the mountain sides and a lot of walking up into the foothills to get into. You'd have to really want to go there, to end up in them.

In the more dangerous American cities, it feels like you're never too far from a bad area.
Speaking of stumbling into them, I was robbed - well, conned out of money by a sketchy character, just a few blocks from the strip. It gets really dodgy just a few blocks from all the action, even in broad daylight. The place was a dump.
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