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Old 07-09-2014, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Pilipinas
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Now here are the efforts the the Ph. gov't is doing to minimize the poverty condition as of 2008 up to now. Conditional Cash Transfer to the poorest @ 4000PHP (100USD) per family per period, from period 1 to 6 of the entire year . (Subdivided for health, education, food)
Pantawid Pamilyang Pilipino Program

http://pantawid.dswd.gov.ph/images/4thquarterreport.pdf

Education in Ph is Free for Public Elementary, High School, College scholarship with allowances in some major state University like U.P. campuses and some other state universities.

TESDA
Technical Vocational School (Polytecnic) That educate and train out of school youth and undergraduate Filipinos., regardless of age. for sustainability in the long run.

TESDA Online Program


We might not have subsidy on Gas and Power, but the gov't is doing something for these marginalized people, that eventually would bring them to the next level and for future hope. U got the wrong impression upon seeing those headline on news while not analyzing the real situation.

 
Old 07-09-2014, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Pilipinas
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Indonesia Unemployment Rate | Actual Data | Forecasts | Calendar
Its 5.7% the unmployment here, beside a country with lower population should've been able to manage more on this but Ph sends lots of these people overseas, and yet its still 7%. So if indo with 240 million people achieve lower unemployment rate (and also poverty) are really doing some progress in dealing with the welfare of the people. Imagine a 0.3% drop in the unemployment is 800,000 people in a year.
Do the Math Goshio, its very simple.. read well my post. don't make it complicated. that was based on the link posted by indoberry based on the unemployment rate as of 2013 for Ph. and i did some comparison of that year as well to be accurate.
 
Old 07-09-2014, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Pilipinas
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Let me give some logical fact, rather than believing in some featured article in the news.

THIS is ON THE UNEMPLOYED SECTOR.

Population as of 2013
Indonesia – 250,585,668 Million - 6% is equivalent to 15,233,972.16 Million PEOPLE

Philippines -98,734,798 Million - 7.3 % is equivalent to 7,207,640.254 Million PEOPLE

Indonesia Population 2014 - World Population Review
The Philippines Population 2014 - World Population Review
Unemployment as of 2013
Ph ---------– 7.3 %
Id ----------- 6 %
PH has highest Asean unemployment rate

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'Inflation - The rate at which the general level of prices for goods and services is rising, and, subsequently, purchasing power is falling. Central banks attempt to stop severe inflation, along with severe deflation, in an attempt to keep the excessive growth of prices to a minimum.
http://www.bles.dole.gov.ph/PUBLICAT.../PDF/Tab75.pdf

Inflation rate:
Ph – by end of 2013 – 4.1%
Id – by end of 2013 – 8.4%
http://www.bles.dole.gov.ph/PUBLICAT.../PDF/Tab75.pdf


Meaning the price of basic commodities are volatile when Inflation rate is higher, it could go at even higher depends on the Inflation rate. And this will affect so much on lives of those poor people.

So meaning at some point Ph. unemployment @ 7M ++ would be at least in better situation to manage than the 15M++ of your country. Also take a look at the inflation rate of both countries, again your is double, meaning much unpredictable prices in basic commodities for poorest people than ours.

Now here are the efforts the the Ph. gov't is doing to minimize the poverty condition as of 2008 up to now. Conditional Cash Transfer to the poorest @ 4000PHP (100USD) per family per period, from period 1 to 6 of the entire year . (Subdivided for health, education, food)
Pantawid Pamilyang Pilipino Program
http://pantawid.dswd.gov.ph/images/4thquarterreport.pdf

Education in Ph is Free for Public Elementary, High School, College scholarship with allowances in some major state University like U.P. campuses and some other state universities.

TESDA
Technical Vocational School (Polytecnic) That educate and train out of school youth and undergraduate Filipinos., regardless of age. for sustainability in the long run.
TESDA Online Program

We might not have subsidy on Gas and Power, but the gov't is doing something for these marginalized people, that eventually would bring them to the next level and for future hope. U got the wrong impression upon seeing those headline on news while not analyzing the real situation.
 
Old 07-09-2014, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Pilipinas
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These look like second hand cars

I don't think that's how you transport luxury cars to your dealership.
That's black market luxury cars, meaning some are slightly used and some are totally brand new through back door channel to avoid big taxes in those major ports.

Also in black market, anything u want is possible, even firearms, etc. as long as you have the money.
 
Old 07-09-2014, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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The listing I provided you are compilation of Metro Manila malls and i PERSONALLY VERIFIED THOSE. See? I have first hand knowledge. On the other hand, you are just basing on an article. You didn't even bother to check the veracity of that article.

Mind you, never believe fully in articles or reports, it may fool you.
The listing doesn't include 200 malls, i am asking those in Mega Manila, can you proof there is 200 malls?

You just have to learn to live with the fact that we have more malls than Manila.

You ask me to read your article and then ask me not to fully believe in an article/source... ok LOLL!!!

I have many article that confirms it:

http://news.detik.com/read/2013/09/1...19/2359979/10/
Data Pertumbuhan Mal di Kawasan Jakarta | -metro- | Tempo.co
No more malls in Jakarta: Jokowi | The Jakarta Post
Jokowi: Too Many Malls in Jakarta | Metro | Tempo.Co :: Indonesian News Portal

I think you can easily find the listing of the malls online too.

In 2013 10 malls open, another 8 in metropolitan area.
http://finance.detik.com/read/2013/0...h-sampai-pluit

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Old 07-09-2014, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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Do the Math Goshio, its very simple.. read well my post. don't make it complicated. that was based on the link posted by indoberry based on the unemployment rate as of 2013 for Ph. and i did some comparison of that year as well to be accurate.
Do the math? the real fact makes more sense, Indonesia have less unemployment than Philippines deal with it. Nothing you say will actually improve anything.
 
Old 07-09-2014, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Pilipinas
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That's the same in Indonesia. But retailers can gauge the markets by other means. They don't have to ask the government's tax records. lol. Through these other means, they can then decide whether investing in a certain market is more profitable than not. That's why there is such a huge luxury market in Jakarta. Its because retailers know the massive amounts of rich people the city has.

Do you know that 30% of all luxurious condominium in Singapore is owned by Indonesian. In Singapore, Indonesian are considered to be either very rich or just a maid. Whereas Filipino is generally considered basically just maids/low class worker.



Why Singapore? They can't go to other bigger countries UK or US? Are they shy or its just don't know and can't understand English at all even though they' re rich as you've said. Low class pinay just like your Indonesian maids too in HK. Which is even lower in salary as compared to that pinay maid, isn't?

Pinoy usually fancy to have properties in the U.S. we DON'T dream to have such in our neighboring countries. Instead, go to the BIG APPLE.

Just like the simple/humble religious Filipino group that bought the entire town of SCENIC in South Dakota. or Manny Pacman who bought Mansions in LA, or botique5 in downtown Manhattan of Monique Lhuiller of Cebu.. or the highest paid Rapper in the world Apl de Ap of Black Eyed Peas from sapang bato in Pampanga province who bought properties in the US, restaurants, foot ball team, etc.
 
Old 07-09-2014, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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^^ you mean this?
More rich Indonesians buy property in London | The Jakarta Post
More Indonesians Are Buying Property in Sydney | The Jakarta Globe
Affluent Asian investors buying up Melbourne property | ABC Radio Australia

why should they be shy, the middle upper class tend to have reasonably good english. The upper class usually are very good at it actually. Why compare maid? lol Filipinas maid are prefered because they have English language, that's why they get paid more. Its a bit unfortunate for the Indonesians though but its something that we have to live with, but the remittance do help their family back in home atleast.

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Old 07-09-2014, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Woodbridge, VA
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Why Singapore? They can't go to other bigger countries UK or US? Are they shy or its just don't know and can't understand English at all even though they' re rich as you've said. Low class pinay just like your Indonesian maids too in HK. Which is even lower in salary as compared to that pinay maid, isn't?

Pinoy usually fancy to have properties in the U.S. we DON'T dream to have such in our neighboring countries. Instead, go to the BIG APPLE.

Just like the simple/humble religious Filipino group that bought the entire town of SCENIC in South Dakota. or Manny Pacman who bought Mansions in LA, or botique5 in downtown Manhattan of Monique Lhuiller of Cebu.. or the highest paid Rapper in the world Apl de Ap of Black Eyed Peas from sapang bato in Pampanga province who bought properties in the US, restaurants, foot ball team, etc.
FAIL

he's nowhere close to diddy, jay-z and dr. dre!

Quote:
The Cash Kings list tracks pretax earnings for all living artists whose work is primarily classified as hip-hop or rap. To form the list, we looked at income from touring, record sales, publishing, merchandise sales, endorsements and other ventures. Management, agent and attorney fees are not deducted. Earnings are tabulated from June 2012 to June 2013 and based on data from Pollstar, the Recording Industry Association of America and Nielsen SoundScan, and from interviews with numerous managers, lawyers, record executives and some of the artists themselves.

2013
1. Diddy ($50 million)
2. Jay Z ($43 million)
3. Dr. Dre ($40 million)
4. Nicki Minaj ($29 million)
5. Birdman ($21 million)
6. Kanye West ($20 million)
7. Lil Wayne ($16 million)
8. Wiz Khalifa ($14 million)
9. Ludacris ($12 million)
10. Pitbull ($11 million)
11. Drake ($10.5 million)
12. Snoop Lion ($10 million, tie)
12. Eminem ($10 million, tie)
14. Kendrick Lamar ($9 million, tie) playing over 100 shows
14. Pharrell Williams ($9 million, tie)
14. Macklemore & Ryan Lewis ($9 million, tie)
17. Swizz Beatz ($8.5 million)
18. Tech N9ne ($7.5 million)
19. 50 Cent ($7 million)
20. Lil Jon ($6 million, tie)
20. Rick Ross ($6 million, tie)
20. Mac Miller ($6 million, tie)
20. Young Jeezy ($6 million, tie)
20. Questlove ($6 million, tie)
2012

1. Dr. Dre ($110 million)
2. Diddy ($45 million)
3. Shawn "Jay-Z" Carter ($38 million)
4. Kanye West ($35 million)
5. Lil Wayne ($27 million)
6. Drake ($20.5 million)
7. Birdman ($20 million)
8. Nicki Minaj ($15.5 million)
9. Eminem ($15 million)
10. Ludacris ($12 million)
11. Pitbull ($9.5 million)
12. Rick Ross ($9 million, tie)
12. Wiz Khalifa ($9 million, tie)
14. Snoop Lion ($8.5 million)
15. 50 Cent ($7.5 million)
16. Swizz Beatz ($7 million, tie)
16. Pharrell Williams ($7 million, tie)
16. Young Jeezy ($7 million, tie)
19. Mac Miller ($6.5 million)
20. Akon ($6 million, tie)
Where is your Apl?
This is why us Visayans are ashamed to be Pinoys, because of you and your pride!
We should be a country of its own
 
Old 07-09-2014, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Pilipinas
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