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Old 01-19-2013, 01:33 AM
 
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Cambodians seem to vary in looks, kind of like the Thai, even though the majority ethnic group is the 'Khmer.' They vary in looks from Austronesian-Malay, to Chinese, to almost Indian. Would you say they are a hybrid group of Southern Mongoloids/northern Mongoloids with a smattering of Indians from the Indic-influenced kingdoms of the past?

Or perhaps they are some intermediate between Southern Chinese (who seem slightly Austronesian) and Malays/Acehnese, Javanese, some Filipino groups. They sort of resemble the Dayaks, Dai.etc, some them look pretty 'northern Mongoloid', some even have 'single eyelids.'

They seem a mysterious people. Don't know many Khmer and haven't been there, I've heard they are very friendly and full of smiles, despite being poor and suffering through some of the worst atrocities of the 20th century.

 
Old 01-19-2013, 01:47 AM
 
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primarily Southern Mongoloid (Austro-Asiatic) with Indian and Chinese admixture. That's why there's a range. They may have even had a native Negrito population.
 
Old 01-19-2013, 01:50 AM
 
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primarily Southern Mongoloid (Austro-Asiatic) with Indian and Chinese admixture. That's why there's a range. They may have even had a native Negrito population.
There was/is indeed a native negrito population (a real minority sadly), also found in Thailand, Laos and Vietnam. These 'orang-asli' are most prominent in Malaysia and Indonesia. Austro-Asiatic isn't really a genetic term but a linguistic term. Southern/Northern Mongoloid is a simplification because who fits into which? Are Viets southern or northern? Southern Chinese? Thai?
 
Old 01-19-2013, 02:00 AM
 
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There was/is indeed a native negrito population (a real minority sadly), also found in Thailand, Laos and Vietnam. These 'orang-asli' are most prominent in Malaysia and Indonesia. Austro-Asiatic isn't really a genetic term but a linguistic term. Southern/Northern Mongoloid is a simplification because who fits into which? Are Viets southern or northern? Southern Chinese? Thai?
yeah but Austro-Asiatic descibres the group of people. You can look on genetic admixture studies and see that they have a distinct category. They use language family names to describe the groups



It doesn't have Khmer on there, but it shows that the mainstream Thais dont have much Austro-Asiatic, but the tribal groups in Thailand do. And even Malaysians & Indonesians are around half Austro-Asiatic, the other half being Austronesian
 
Old 01-19-2013, 02:04 AM
 
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Interesting. So Austro-Asiatics are probably centered in places like Yunnan Province, Burma, Cambodia, Thailand, parts of Vietnam. Wonder what the graph for Vietnam would look like.
 
Old 01-19-2013, 02:06 AM
 
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Interesting. So Austro-Asiatics are probably centered in places like Yunnan Province, Burma, Cambodia, Thailand, parts of Vietnam. Wonder what the graph for Vietnam would look like.
I wonder too. Maybe it would be half red (Austro-Asiatic) half blue (Tai-Kadai) because that seems to be the highest portion among Chinese
 
Old 01-19-2013, 02:09 AM
 
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I wonder too. Maybe it would be half red (Austro-Asiatic) half blue (Tai-Kadai) because that seems to be the highest portion among Chinese
Why are Han Chinese so Tai-Kadai and not Sino-Tibetan?

These are all linguistic terms anyway.

The Khmer and Viet aren't really very closely related genetically as their language would suggest.
 
Old 01-19-2013, 02:19 AM
 
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Why are Han Chinese so Tai-Kadai and not Sino-Tibetan?

These are all linguistic terms anyway.

The Khmer and Viet aren't really very closely related genetically as their language would suggest.
I'm not sure. I dont know why Sino-Tibetan only shows up in one group. Maybe the reference group for Sino-Tibetan was some far off Western China ethnicity that speaks a Sino-Tibetan language. And I agree that the terms dont necessarily reflect language groups. Just like Western Indonesians are Austronesian-speaking people, but they have more Austro-Asiatic on the chart. The names are just reflective of the reference groups they used. For instance, they labeled dark green as "Papuan" because the group they used as a reference speaks a Papuan language.
 
Old 01-20-2013, 09:00 AM
 
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Maddox the cambodian baby that ANgelina Jolie adopted...doesnt look hybrid to me
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...95929935_n.jpg

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Old 01-20-2013, 07:18 PM
 
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Lol, that's one fashionable kid!
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