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Old 05-16-2013, 05:05 PM
 
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Guangzhou has always been attracting foreign merchants in history.

In Tang Dynasty, a local governor of Guangzhou saw too many Chinese marry "dark skinned" foreigners (Persians, Arabs, Indians, Malays for the most part) and banned interracial marriage and restricted immigrants to own properties.
It was one of the earliest segregation laws in China.

Ethnic issues in China - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-16-2013, 05:35 PM
 
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Although Tang Dynasty had some segregation laws, Ming Dynasty, on the contrary, had forced assimilation laws.

Before Ming, Mongols introduced a lot of Semu people (mainly Persians, Turks and Arabs) in China. They were physically different from Chinese and practiced Islam. What is more, they had a higher status than Han Chinese according to Mongols' rule.

Ming dynasty, established by Han Chinese, disallowed Semu people to marry each other. Their language and names were also banned. As a result, Semu people were sinicized and lost their identity. Some still practice Islam and become the Hui people of China. Others have been fully sinicized and become Han Chinese.

Nowadays, many Hui people have the family name Ma 马, which derives from Mohammed; other examples include Bai 白, from Baraka (?); Hu 忽 from Hussein, etc.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Macao
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I have a really hard time believing Guangzhou will be be majority-minority within decades. This is a massive city of 12.78 million and still absorbing a massive population influx from other parts of China. The African population is the largest foreign population and they are barely a drop in the bucket (even if using the highest estimates)
Agreed. I don't see it either. I didn't realize Guangzhou was that big. That's about 1/3rd the population size of Canada or Australia (I think both of those countries are around 35 million each).

But both Canada and Australia are really trying really hard to be receptive to immigrants. China, on the other hand? I just don't see it.
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Macao
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Nowadays, many Hui people have the family name Ma 马, which derives from Mohammed; other examples include Bai 白, from Baraka (?); Hu 忽 from Hussein, etc.
Interesting! First I've heard of that!
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Old 05-17-2013, 02:34 AM
 
Location: Manila
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The problem with Guangzhou is that it gets overshadowed by its more glamourous neighbor Hong Kong....
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:16 AM
 
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Agreed. I don't see it either. I didn't realize Guangzhou was that big. That's about 1/3rd the population size of Canada or Australia (I think both of those countries are around 35 million each).

But both Canada and Australia are really trying really hard to be receptive to immigrants. China, on the other hand? I just don't see it.
Australia has about 22 million.
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:07 AM
 
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Guangzhou is the Sao Paulo of China. Meaning they are one of the largest cities in the world, yet most people in the world have never heard of either city.

I constantly meet people who have never of heard of Guangzhou or Sao Paulo, because they are not nearly as famous as Rio De Janeiro and Hong Kong.
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:01 AM
 
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Australia has about 22 million.
Australia is a lucky country.
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Old 05-27-2013, 01:54 AM
 
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Yeah that was interesting, and your right. Many Hui people have the name Ma........Didn't know that.
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Old 05-30-2013, 12:13 AM
 
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And another thread turns into a critique of Asian women.
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