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Indonesia 55 47.41%
Philippines 61 52.59%
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Old 05-30-2013, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Czech Republic
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Yea, you can look at census data easily and there are outside estimates as well. We all have the internet. There are way more Filipino people in other parts of Asia, developed Anglophone countries, and the Gulf States than there are in Spain. What is there to be contentious about?
It is just normal for them to go to Anglo countries because of the " English Language ". Do we even have to talk about this ? It's obvious right ? No more translation of documents too.

Singapore ? It is just 3 hours away and no language barrier because everyone speaks English.

Hongkong ? It is only 2 hours away and it is where they can easily get jobs as nannies. I guess some of their bosses can't really speak English to them but HK is where they can easily get jobs and being just 2 hours away makes it an advantage that they can easily come home.

Golf ? Most of them work in the construction, hospitals. Middle East offer loads of jobs for them and again no language barrier.

For Filipinos a hundred thousand in Spain or 140, 000 in Italy is already a big number especially because of language barrier..Yes, Spanish language may be closed to Filipinos as we got 6,000 words from them but it still not that easy to construct a whole sentence in Espanol since we do not have Spanish pronouns and prepositions and we do not know the proper Spanish grammar.

140, 000 in Hongkong is not so big difference to 100,000 in Spain.
They may be just a little bit more in HK or Singapore, but they are only there to work and not to retire. The ones in Spain are already there for good.

They go to countries where the jobs are, the job agencies in the Philippines usually have openings only in HK, Singapore, Middle East, America, Canada and Australia.

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Old 05-30-2013, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Filipinas
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I agree.
Rights they cannot get in other countries especially in Chinese ruled countries that discriminate them because they are just maids.
America doesn't open doors for every Filipino as well and doesn't give them the same privilege of gaining citizenship in a span of 2 years.
Yes, US will take so many years of waiting for petition papers specially family members. Not a lot of Filipinos knew about this rule of Spain immigration granted for Filipinos and other former colonies because most Filipinos are more concentrated in the US. Spain is always reaching out, but because of wrong information in history books about Spain and it's contribution to the Filipinos. Instead they began to dislike and hate it, but ignored the US damages to our history. They tried to delete the real history of Filipino National Identity, by hating the 333 yrs of Spanish era & replacing it to American influence instead that will benefit the US. Filipino story is in that 333 yrs & we don't forget also our pre-spanish history.
 
Old 05-30-2013, 09:03 PM
 
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It is just normal for them to go to Anglo countries because of the " English Language ". Do we even have to talk about this ? It's obvious right ? No more translation of documents too.

Singapore ? It is just 3 hours away and no language barrier because everyone speaks English.

Hongkong ? It is only 2 hours away and it is where they can easily get jobs as nannies. I guess some of their bosses can't really speak English to them but HK is where they can easily get jobs and being just 2 hours away makes it an advantage that they can easily come home.

Golf ? Most of them work in the construction, hospitals. Middle East offer loads of jobs for them and again no language barrier.

For Filipinos a hundred thousand in Spain or 140, 000 in Italy is already a big number especially because of language barrier..Yes, Spanish language may be closed to Filipinos as we got 6,000 words from them but it still not that easy to construct a whole sentence in Espanol since we do not have Spanish pronouns and prepositions and we do not know the proper Spanish grammar.

140, 000 in Hongkong is not so big difference to 100,000 in Spain.
They may be just a little bit more in HK or Singapore, but they are only there to work and not to retire. The ones in Spain are already there for good.

They go to countries where the jobs are, the job agencies in the Philippines usually have openings only in HK, Singapore, Middle East, America, Canada and Australia.
I've said this a few times ago--the reasons are myriad. The point is the Filipino population in Spain is tiny.
 
Old 05-30-2013, 09:33 PM
 
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I've said this a few times ago--the reasons are myriad. The point is the Filipino population in Spain is tiny.
Quite funny, in Hongkong Filipinos are like 140, 000 only 40,000 more than in Spain but they are considered many.

If you just know how many we are in Portugal, you are probably going to say we are completely non existent but the Portuguese government still considers our existence in Portugal.

Filipinos in Spain are still the 2nd largest Asian community.
 
Old 05-30-2013, 09:38 PM
 
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Quite funny, in Hongkong Filipinos are like 140, 000 only 40,000 more than in Spain but they are considered many.

If you just know how many we are in Portugal, you are probably going to say we are completely non existent but the Portuguese government still considers our existence in Portugal.

Filipinos in Spain are still the 2nd largest Asian community.
Filipino people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Total population
108,000,000[1]

Regions with significant populations

Philippines 94,010,000
projected as of the 2010 census[2]

United States 3,416,840[3]
Saudi Arabia 1,066,401[4]
United Arab Emirates 700,000[5]
Malaysia 636,544[6]
Canada 436,190[7]
Japan 305,972[8]
United Kingdom 203,035[4]
Mexico 200,000[9]
Qatar 195,558[4]
Kuwait 139,802[4]
Italy 134,154[10]
Hong Kong 130,810[11]
Australia 129,400[12]
Spain 115,362[13]
Israel 70,000[14]
South Korea 63,464[15]
Lebanon 35,000[16]
Germany 19,000[17]
Netherlands 16,719[18]
Nigeria 16,000[19]
Sweden 13,000[20]
Ireland 12,791[21]
Norway 12,262[22]
China 12,254[23]
Switzerland 10,000'[24]
Palau 7,000[25]
Turkey 5,500[26]
Russia 5,000[27]
Indonesia 4,800[28]
Pakistan 3,000[29]
Iceland 2,900[30
 
Old 05-30-2013, 09:50 PM
 
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Quite funny, in Hongkong Filipinos are like 140, 000 only 40,000 more than in Spain but they are considered many.

If you just know how many we are in Portugal, you are probably going to say we are completely non existent but the Portuguese government still considers our existence in Portugal.

Filipinos in Spain are still the 2nd largest Asian community.
Hong Kong doesn't have that large of a Filipino population either, but for a city of 8 million versus a country of 49 million, yea, I'd say it's significantly more. There is not a large population of Asians in general in Spain. It's pretty simple.
 
Old 05-30-2013, 10:19 PM
 
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Hong Kong doesn't have that large of a Filipino population either, but for a city of 8 million versus a country of 49 million, yea, I'd say it's significantly more. There is not a large population of Asians in general in Spain. It's pretty simple.
of course for you that's tiny. Filipinos in Spain is higher than Filipinos in Bahrain. We are 45,000 Filipino Expats working here with almost 600,000 native Bahrainis, This small island. The total population is over a million including expats. We were included already as many, I was actually expecting more Filipinos in China than Spain.
 
Old 05-30-2013, 10:24 PM
 
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of course for you that's tiny. Filipinos in Spain is higher than Filipinos in Bahrain. We are 45,000 Filipino Expats working here with almost 600,000 native Bahrainis, This small island. The total population is over a million including expats. We were included already as many, I was actually expecting more Filipinos in China than Spain.
Yes and to think that Spain is not really an emigrant country like America, United Kingdom or Australia.

I believe that if America didn't take the Philippines from Spain, Filipinos would equal the population of Latin America in Spain. But because America took the Philippines,majority of the Filipinos only think about USA and also because modern Filipinos cannot speak Espanol any more.
If Americans never came, Filipinos would still be speaking Spanish by now and would for sure be competing againts Latin American communities in Spain in terms of emigration.

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Old 05-31-2013, 10:12 PM
 
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funny how Hermosa is trying so hard to say filipino population in spain is large

Spain doesnt even break top 10
United States 3,166,529
Saudi Arabia 1,512,539
Canada 667,674
UAE 636,154
Australia 345,592
Malaysia 316,273
Qatar 305,331
Japan 290,358
United Kingdom 196,740
Italy
 
Old 06-01-2013, 02:10 AM
 
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Yes, because million of spanish speaking Filipinos died during the American-Spain war, WWII, and American-Filipino War & also the promotion of English and Filipino language. One of the biggest mistake that our former President Corazon Aquino did was when she totally removed the Spanish language in school curriculum in 1987, I remembered the spanish books of my aunties during their high school years. I guess during that time she doesn't know yet how important the language for today's generation.

Philippines was also close to it's former Spanish Colonies countries with a great relationship & even participating in the celebration of Hispanidad even if we already had our own independence as individual nations that the Spanish language that binds us together like Manuel Quezon said when he visits Mexico during his presidency as the 1st commonwealth president during the American Occupation & I guess the Americans realized that they can actually kill the Spanish Language because of the distance between Philippines and the Latin America.

You'll add also those bad images of Spain to our history books that gave the Filipinos mentality to hate that part of our history. We cannot be Filipino without that part of the history, no Philippines at all. Our relationship with Spain was like mother & daughter, Spain as the mother and Philippines was her daughter who asked her mother if she can stand up and be independent on her own because she wants to learn more on her own.


^One of the Revolutionarios, Juan Luna's painting do represent that meaning between Spain & Filipinas, Spain molded the Filipinos. We hate the bad stuff during that era but there's a lot more of good stuff that Filipinos still treasured up to this day.

President Quezon in Mexico (press coverage)
Reading about Manuel L. Quezon's visit to Mexico makes me wonder how things have really changed ? The Filipinos from before were so much different from the Filipinos of today. The Filipinos before, knew more about history while the Filipinos of today are quite clueless about the Philippine history. Yes, though the Philippines is in Asia, Philippines had ties before with Latin America and infact there was actually a time when President Marcos was also communicating a lot with Chili's dictator Augusto Pinochet. I am not saying it's good but what I am saying is that probably before when there were so much people in the government who could speak Spanish, Philippines had more diplomatic ties with Latin America, unlike now, that they probably all do not even know that there is a country in Asia called the Philippines that one way or the other shared some historical ties with them ( Mexico ). Wow ! The Presidents before could speak atleast 3 languages..Former President Manuel L. Quezon went to Mexico and spoke to the President in perfect Spanish and for sure, he could also speak English unlike the Presidents that we have now that can speak only one foreign language.

If you come to think about the friends of Philippines, I can say we do not really have. America colonised us but they are not even doing anything to help us with our territorial disputes with China and Malaysia. They should be helping us but they actually are not. It would be good to have some ties with Latin America again, they are not as strong as America, UK or China but atleast it would just be good that there are other countries supporting us too.
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