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Old 02-20-2013, 08:24 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I guess he/she meant to say most Indonesian people don't take their religion that serious.



Many North African women wear hijabs, no? I guess only those wealthy elites/Western-educated women choose not to wear. Besides, the Arabic culture is so strong there I doubt it can get any more liberal than here. Of course I'm aware of the secular and feminist factions, especially in Tunisia.
Morocco is probably the outlier, but I have a friend from Morocco who doesn't wear the hijab (or else she takes it off for all her fb photos! lol). Morocco and Algeria are also more French-influenced. Actually I think she told me many women in Morocco do not. It's probably similar to Lebanon or Turkey.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:48 PM
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Morocco is probably the outlier, but I have a friend from Morocco who doesn't wear the hijab (or else she takes it off for all her fb photos! lol). Morocco and Algeria are also more French-influenced. Actually I think she told me many women in Morocco do not. It's probably similar to Lebanon or Turkey.
Not sure about that, but many Moroccan/Algerian women in France wear hijabs, and they are supposed to be even more liberal and Western in a staunchly secular nation like France. Hmm...
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:58 PM
 
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Not sure about that, but many Moroccan/Algerian women in France wear hijabs, and they are supposed to be even more liberal and Western in a staunchly secular nation like France. Hmm...
Yeah I don't know what it's actually like, but that's what I heard from her.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:04 PM
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And the trend in France is that, the younger ones are getting more and more religious compared to their immigrant parents/grandparents. Perhaps it's a way of rebellion against the invasive secular French culture as well as a general religious awakening and cultural consciousness among the young to remind them of their roots as many have never stepped foot in their countries of origin.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:13 PM
 
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And the trend in France is that, the younger ones are getting more and more religious compared to their immigrant parents/grandparents. Perhaps it's a way of rebellion against the invasive secular French culture as well as a general religious awakening and cultural consciousness among the young to remind them of their roots as many have never stepped foot in their countries of origin.
The French seem to most militantly secular. Whereas in the UK they try to accomodate Muslims, the French go to the extent of wanting to ban head-scarves.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:21 PM
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The French seem to most militantly secular. Whereas in the UK they try to accomodate Muslims, the French go to the extent of wanting to ban head-scarves.
I find the UK too soft-handed in tackling certain Muslim issues, and because of that radicalism creeps in and you see all the militant brainwashing at certain mosques as well as terrorist attacks on their own turf. There are even some homegrown radical Islamist fringe groups that call for UK to adopt Islam and uphold Shariah Law, but almost nothing is done to apprehend or curb the problem. It seems that Muslim radicals are very vocal and are unfaltered by a White majority that live around them, but if a non-Muslim group were to be that vocal and militant in a Muslim country, it's going to ignite an all-out religious riot.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:38 PM
 
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I find the UK too soft-handed in tackling certain Muslim issues, and because of that radicalism creeps in and you see all the militant brainwashing at certain mosques as well as terrorist attacks on their own turf. There are even some homegrown radical Islamist fringe groups that call for UK to adopt Islam and uphold Shariah Law, but almost nothing is done to apprehend or curb the problem. It seems that Muslim radicals are very vocal and are unfaltered by a White majority that live around them, but if a non-Muslim group were to be that vocal and militant in a Muslim country, it's going to ignite an all-out religious riot.
I agree. Free speech is one thing but they shouldn't tolerate this radical extremist BS.
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