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Old 02-05-2013, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Columbus, Ohio
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I think Japanese is the hardest

Compared to Cantonese, Japanese is very simplified. I agree, it is hard.
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Old 02-06-2013, 12:43 AM
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Location: Malaysia & Singapore
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I think Japanese is the hardest
For Westerners, I gather. For Asians, or particularly Chinese/Korean speakers, it seems pretty easy to master.
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Old 02-06-2013, 09:17 AM
 
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For Westerners, I gather. For Asians, or particularly Chinese/Korean speakers, it seems pretty easy to master.
For advanced learners, the biggest challenge is vocabulary. I mean, beginners may struggle with grammar but that phase passes in 2~3 years with intensive training. After that, vocabulary is the real problem.

Chinese and Koreans have a huge advantage with respect to Japanese vocabulary. The three languages share about 60% words in some way.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:27 PM
 
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Grammatically Japanese and Korean are hardest. Cantonese maybe hard in pronouncing but gramma is quite easy to understand.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Macao
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gramma is quite easy to understand.
And how about Grampa?
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:03 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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6 tones. That is much better than 9. I wonder what language it was that I heard has 9.
I heard Thai has 9.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:26 AM
 
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I heard Thai has 9.
Thai has 5 tones.
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Old 02-10-2013, 10:14 AM
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Yeah...Cantonese has 9 tones. Vietnamese has 6 and Thai does have 5. As far as honorifics, Korean and Japanese are where it gets very difficult.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:30 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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For Westerners, I gather. For Asians, or particularly Chinese/Korean speakers, it seems pretty easy to master.
Why should Japanese be any easier to master for a Chinese speaker? The languages are totally unrelated. Grammar.etc is totally different. Japanese is as close to Turkish as it is to Chinese, aside from loan-words. Unless you're talking about written kanji.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:32 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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I wonder why Japanese/Chinese are considered among the hardest to learn. I would think languages like Arabic, Cantonese, Vietnamese would be harder. Or are they saying it's one of the hardest languages that westerners commonly learn? Japanese didn't seem all that hard, I learned for 2 years (albeit I didn't learn much/pay attention). I mean French grammar isn't that easy either, really.

As to the OP, I would presume Cantonese or any other 'dialect' of Chinese would be tougher than Mandarin. It seems everything about standardised Chinese is designed to simply learning the language, from the 4 tones to the simplified characters.
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