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Old 02-21-2013, 12:51 PM
 
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I think Korea is somehow overshadowed by China, Russia and Japan.
Vietnam is a powerful country in SE Asia, although it is overshadowed by China.

 
Old 02-21-2013, 06:21 PM
 
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Confucianism, drinking culture, immense national pride, etc.

Korea and Vietnam have a soul connection. I lived in Korea for many years, and instantly felt very familiar with Vietnamese culture, as I had experienced so much of it from Korean culture already. It was uncanny.
Vietnam doesn't have a 'drinking culture.' Alcohol consumption per capita is way down the list. According to my Vietnamese friend a lot of young people rarely drink.
 
Old 02-21-2013, 06:22 PM
 
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I should also add the obvious that both were conquered by China for long periods.
 
Old 02-21-2013, 06:24 PM
 
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Do the people generally have the same character?
I haven't met enough Vietnamese or Koreans to make broad generalisations of my own, but I've met friendly people from both countries. Both are very family-orientated, and women in both countries seem to have a strength of character despite a male-dominated aspect. Vietnam actually seems quite matriarchal in some ways, I'm not sure if it's the same in Korea. Maybe it's because it's in SE Asia as well.
 
Old 02-21-2013, 11:26 PM
 
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I think Korea is somehow overshadowed by China, Russia and Japan.
Vietnam is a powerful country in SE Asia, although it is overshadowed by China.
I definitely feel that Vietnam will be a powerful country in Southeast Asia. They have immense work ethics quite like Koreans.

It's a stark contrast when you cross the border into Cambodia, and see everyone 'lazing around'. Whereas in Vietnam, you'll regularly hear the roar of motorbikes from sunrise to sunset, with everyone trying to make a buck with every ounce of strength they have.

That being said, when I think of 'power' and Southeast Asia, I tend to think of Thailand and Malaysia as the drivers of the region. (I'm excluding Singapore though from that comparisons list).
 
Old 02-21-2013, 11:31 PM
 
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Vietnam doesn't have a 'drinking culture.' Alcohol consumption per capita is way down the list. According to my Vietnamese friend a lot of young people rarely drink.
I don't think most Vietnamese can afford the manufactured '333' or 'ba-ba-ba' Vietnamese brands of beer. That being said, on the streets of Vietnam, they have little 'home brew' types of beer absolutely everywhere. Most of the locals could never afford the expat bars, but they'd still regularly drink on the street corners.

I don't have any photos of this myself, but could quickly find one on the internet. Are we allowed to post a picture not are own, but than reference the origin?

But, anyways, beer is extremely cheap in these little corner streets, and I regularly saw young Vietnamese sitting around drinking and talking with beer that was probably not more than 10 American cents.

When I think about it, it was nowhere never the level of drunkenness I'd see anywhere in South Korea, but few places in Asia are though.
 
Old 02-22-2013, 12:44 AM
 
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I've read some translations/condensations of Vietnamese stories/folk-tales, and a common theme is a married woman prostrating herself totally to her mother in law. The mother in law expects total obedience from her, even to the point of killing her. Also seen a few movies exploring this theme, so it seems a part of Vietnamese culture. They really take ideas of honour, knowing your place and loyalty to the next level. There's definitely a brutality to the Confucian system, that's for sure. In ancient China I hear it was legal for fathers to kill their disobedient children .
I never heard Confucius advocating killing of any sort. There's no sense of "legality" in most ancient civilizations though. If the monarch wants you dead for whatever reason including disobeying him, then you're dead.
 
Old 02-22-2013, 01:22 AM
 
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I don't think most Vietnamese can afford the manufactured '333' or 'ba-ba-ba' Vietnamese brands of beer. That being said, on the streets of Vietnam, they have little 'home brew' types of beer absolutely everywhere. Most of the locals could never afford the expat bars, but they'd still regularly drink on the street corners.

I don't have any photos of this myself, but could quickly find one on the internet. Are we allowed to post a picture not are own, but than reference the origin?

But, anyways, beer is extremely cheap in these little corner streets, and I regularly saw young Vietnamese sitting around drinking and talking with beer that was probably not more than 10 American cents.

When I think about it, it was nowhere never the level of drunkenness I'd see anywhere in South Korea, but few places in Asia are though.
Yes I'm not saying alcohol isn't common, alcohol is common enough everywhere, but there's not a culture of binge drinking or for many Vietnamese even really drinking much at all. You don't see much public drunkenness and that sort of thing, although I did see a street-fight.
 
Old 02-22-2013, 01:24 AM
 
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I definitely feel that Vietnam will be a powerful country in Southeast Asia. They have immense work ethics quite like Koreans.

It's a stark contrast when you cross the border into Cambodia, and see everyone 'lazing around'. Whereas in Vietnam, you'll regularly hear the roar of motorbikes from sunrise to sunset, with everyone trying to make a buck with every ounce of strength they have.

That being said, when I think of 'power' and Southeast Asia, I tend to think of Thailand and Malaysia as the drivers of the region. (I'm excluding Singapore though from that comparisons list).
That's another thing. I like to describe Vietnam as a 'nation of shopkeepers' where every family seems to live in a shophouse. Koreans often seem to start up small businesses when they migrate too. I don't think there are many Koreans her but I see tons of Korean shops nowadays.
 
Old 02-23-2013, 03:10 PM
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reverence of elders and national pride.
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