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Old 05-13-2013, 12:18 AM
 
Location: Manila
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^ Not Quebec style, because that would mean that they would become athiests. I dont see that happening at all. Filipinos are waaaay too spiritual. It's far more likely that they'll just switch to other Christian denominations, or if they drop Christianity (unlikely), they'll continue believing in folk religion
My impression of Quebec-style Quiet Revolution is the Catholic Church losing sway over the country, a perfect possibility considering how the Church is overstepping its boundaries and the public are getting sick of that. End of story. That's basically why I phrased my response that way. Nonetheless, we both probably should consult native Quebecers to see if our understanding of the Quiet Revolution is correct, but that's for another thread.

However, you do have a good argument in saying that you don't see the Philippines becoming majority atheist in our lifetime. The belief in a higher power is really strong and deeply-rooted here - and even I personally have that myself (I'm nominally Catholic but I don't really practice much of its sacraments nor care too much for its doctrines anyway, and I strongly supported the RH Bill). But then again I do know a number of folks in my circle who are either agnostics, atheists, or totally indifferent to the notion of organized religion as well. Just my two cents on the matter.

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Old 05-13-2013, 12:25 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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My impression of Quebec-style Quiet Revolution is the Catholic Church losing sway over the country, a perfect possibility considering how the Church is overstepping its boundaries and the public are getting sick of that. End of story. That's basically why I phrased my response that way.

However, you do have a good argument that you don't see the Philippines becoming majority atheist in our lifetime. The belief in a higher power is really strong and deeply-rooted here - and even I personally have that myself. But then again I do know a number of folks in my circle who are either agnostics, atheists, or totally indifferent to the notion of organized religion as well. Just my two cents on the matter.
There's still a lot who are so religious than atheist & that's for sure. The only thing that I don't like is that some groups wanted to pull down other's religion and put their religion as better. I guess this is also part of Filipino tradition. (Crab Mentality?)
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Manila
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There's still a lot who are so religious than atheist & that's for sure. The only thing that I don't like is that some groups wanted to pull down other's religion and put their religion as better. I guess this is also part of Filipino tradition. (Crab Mentality?)
Which is why I acknowledged Smtchll's argument regarding the Philippines not turning atheist as a whole anytime soon...

Ahhh, the crab mentality that's been the bane of Philippine culture. What makes it worse is the fact we apply it in the wrong places.
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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I think we only have one Cardinal at a time. I don't know how it works in other countries but isn't it the same for all ?

Italy has more Cardinals than any other nation - 48 of them!

College of Cardinals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:42 PM
 
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I think we only have one Cardinal at a time. I don't know how it works in other countries but isn't it the same for all ?
The Philippines has 3 cardinals, but only one (Cardinal Tagle) was eligible in the last Conclave to vote, the other 2 (Cardinal Rosales and Cardinal Vidal) being older than 80 years old. In the 2005 Conclave, there were two eligible Filipino cardinal electors, but Jaime Cardinal Sin was too ill to go. I think there were a total of 3 cardinals at that time as well, but one was over 80 years old and not eligible to vote. Anyway, still a very low number compared to the number of Catholics in the Philippines.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:09 AM
 
Location: Czech Republic
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Italy has more Cardinals than any other nation - 48 of them!

College of Cardinals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
For a country that is considered no. 3 most catholic country in the world, I don't know why we only have 3.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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For a country that is considered no. 3 most catholic country in the world, I don't know why we only have 3.

I guess the European bias in the Vatican is hard to change. Considering what is happening in those traditionally Catholic nations in Europe (abortion, same-sex phony marriage), they shouldn't have so much influence.
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Old 05-23-2013, 03:55 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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The comments for this article sometimes have a good point or two:

Philippines cemetery provides Manila's poor a place to live among the dead | World news | The Guardian
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:17 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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^It is only in Manila that people lives in cemetery, outside Manila those who live in the cemetery is usually those gravedigger/caretakers 'Supulturero'. These are the illegal settlers in Manila. You can also see some of them live under the bridge in Manila or next to a railways.
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Old 05-24-2013, 04:00 AM
 
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^ It's not only Manila that has these problems. Some very small islands already have severe population problems:
Caubian: An Island Under Siege Pt. 1 - YouTube
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