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Old 05-19-2013, 10:34 AM
 
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It doesnt show anything really...language classifications is not genetics
It's not about language classification. They used different groups as references (the different colors) and whatever language family that group was a part of, they used that name to label the color. So they used Ami/Atayal as the light green reference, and since those 2 speak Austronesian languages, the light green is labeled as "Austronesian." 14 reference groups were used, that's what the "K=14" means. That's the highest number of reference groups I've seen for an Asian admixture chart

 
Old 05-19-2013, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Charlotte North Carolina
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It's not about language classification. They used different groups as references (the different colors) and whatever language family that group was a part of, they used that name to label the color. So they used Ami/Atayal as the light green reference, and since those 2 speak Austronesian languages, the light green is labeled as "Austronesian." 14 reference groups were used, that's what the "K=14" means. That's the highest number of reference groups I've seen for an Asian admixture chart
So ?? what haplotypes were used to compare them
 
Old 05-19-2013, 10:41 AM
 
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So ?? what haplotypes were used to compare them
read all about it here

To the antipode of Asia : Gene Expression
 
Old 05-19-2013, 10:44 AM
 
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According to that it not only ran high in SEA but southern china as well

so in retrospect....taiwanese abos are a less developed austronesian.....
similar to a cro- magnan is to europeans
 
Old 05-19-2013, 10:46 AM
 
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According to that it not only ran high in SEA but southern china as well
Yeah because Austronesians came from Southern China. Also notice how Thais have significant light green as well
 
Old 05-19-2013, 10:50 AM
 
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Yeah because Austronesians came from Southern China. Also notice how Thais have significant light green as well
Yes but taiwanese seem to be austronesians who never got past the proto- mongoloid stage
 
Old 05-19-2013, 10:53 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Yes but taiwanese seem to be austronesians who never got past the proto- mongoloid stage
Because, of course, they arrived in Taiwan from 8,000 years ago. Some of their culture seems reminiscent of Native Americans, judging from the cultural shows I saw. Head-dresses of feathers, chiefs, their songs.
 
Old 05-19-2013, 10:54 AM
 
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Yes but taiwanese seem to be austronesians who never got past the proto- mongoloid stage
And we came from them.



These people would be an example of the most pure light green, but of course, they wanted to choose very native-looking Taiwanese Aborigines for their movie. Not all Taiwanese Aborigines look like that. The ones who are mixed look like lowland Filipinos. And that makes sense because lowland Filipinos are mostly Austronesian with some Chinese admixture (and some other things).
 
Old 05-19-2013, 11:05 AM
 
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And we came from them.



These people would be an example of the most pure light green, but of course, they wanted to choose very native-looking Taiwanese Aborigines for their movie. Not all Taiwanese Aborigines look like that. The ones who are mixed look like lowland Filipinos. And that makes sense because lowland Filipinos are mostly Austronesian with some Chinese admixture (and some other things).
Yes you still do find plenty who look like that, but they are a minority. If you go to Hualien or the aboriginal cultural park perhaps 25% or so might be like that. Of the native dancers, I'd say a good 1/3 you couldn't tell apart from most Taiwanese.

I've seen some Taiwanese with extremely kinky hair which I find an interesting phenotype. Facially some of these same people could pass for N.Chinese. I wonder if this could even be a left-over negrito trait.
 
Old 05-19-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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And we came from them.



These people would be an example of the most pure light green, but of course, they wanted to choose very native-looking Taiwanese Aborigines for their movie. Not all Taiwanese Aborigines look like that. The ones who are mixed look like lowland Filipinos. And that makes sense because lowland Filipinos are mostly Austronesian with some Chinese admixture (and some other things).
No we are both from southern china and both austronesian speaking....but we did not come from them....maybe the northern hilltribes did...

on average they look closer to pocahontas then modern day austronesian speaking people in seasia
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